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Author: BretCahillBretCahill Date: Jul 27, 2008 11:22
I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
line, etc.
But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
and go straight to electrified trains?
Bret Cahill
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Jul 27, 2008 11:37
> I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood.
And no one will buy that claim.
> I can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas line, etc.
Someone in your town can tho. Thats a pretty small part of the cost of a gas station.
> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank
> cars and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they
> believed natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
Yes, but they can also just pass on the higher cost of diesel to their customers too.
> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas
> interim solution and go straight to electrified trains?
Some of them are.
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Author: EconotronEconotron Date: Jul 27, 2008 11:45
>I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
> line, etc.
>
> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>
> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
> and go straight to electrified trains?
>
>
Natural gas reserves are also limited, and today it is the major source for
home heating.
e.
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Author: zzbunkerzzbunker Date: Jul 27, 2008 14:10
> I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
> line, etc.
>
> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>
> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
> and go straight to electrified trains?
Because trains mostly work on government subsidy systems,
Which is why computers, lasers, robots, wind and solar energy grew
so quickly.
>
> Bret Cahill
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Author: Jake HornJake Horn Date: Jul 27, 2008 17:43
>I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
> line, etc.
>
> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>
> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
> and go straight to electrified trains?
>
>
> Bret Cahill
Because that is no solution, it might take a year to convert them all over.
You can't natural gas you way out of this crisis.
- Jake
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Jul 27, 2008 17:53
Jake Horn Gmail.com> wrote:>> I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
>> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
>> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
>> line, etc.
>>
>> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
>> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
>> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>>
>> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
>> and go straight to electrified trains?
> Because that is no solution, it might take a year to convert them all over.
Its just not practical to convert diesel engines.
> You can't natural gas you way out of this crisis.
Corse you can. Use electricity from nukes to heat with and
use the CNG and LPG as a transport fuel in gasoline engines.
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Author: BretCahillBretCahill Date: Jul 27, 2008 19:40
>>I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
>> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. �I
>> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
>> line, etc.
>
>> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
>> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
>> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>
>> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
>> and go straight to electrified trains?
>
>> Bret Cahill
>
> Because that is no solution, it might take a year to convert them all over.
> You can't natural gas you way out of this crisis.
Maybe the railroads are just poorly managed.
It's not like they bother to maintain their track, rolling stock,
locomotovies or anything else.
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Author: Rod SpeedRod Speed Date: Jul 27, 2008 20:34
>>> I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas
>>> because the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my
>>> neighborhood. ?I can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up
>>> at my household gas line, etc.
>>
>>> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
>>> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
>>> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>>
>>> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim
>>> solution and go straight to electrified trains?
>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> Because that is no solution, it might take a year to convert them
>> all over. You can't natural gas you way out of this crisis.
> Maybe the railroads are just poorly managed.
No maybe about the fact that you have never ever had a clue.
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Author: PubliusPublius Date: Jul 28, 2008 00:31
> I can always claim I can't unilaterally switch to natural gas because
> the gummint hasn't mandated fill up stations in my neighborhood. I
> can't afford a $4,000 Honda compressor to fill up at my household gas
> line, etc.
>
> But the railroads have their own pipelines, tank farms and tank cars
> and could easily switch to natural gas on their own if they believed
> natural gas was cheaper than diesel in the long run.
>
> Are the railroads planning to just skip the nat. gas interim solution
> and go straight to electrified trains?
Stop losing sleep over the "energy crisis," Cahill. It's just another
Chicken Little story.
Unless, of course, the gummint adopts it as its pretext-of-the-day for
accreting more power to itself, and commences to impose "solutions" which
derail the normal workings of the market. Then it could become a genuine
crisis.
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Author: BretCahillBretCahill Date: Jul 28, 2008 04:08
> Stop losing sleep over the "energy crisis," Cahill. It's just another
> Chicken Little story.
Libertaria is breaking out!
Bret Cahill
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