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Re: Why accelerators cannot push electrons travel at speed more than "c         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: NoEinstein
Date: Sep 16, 2008 18:20

On Sep 11, 3:31 am, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:22:52 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein bellsouth.net>
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>>On Sep 9, 6:52 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:52:45 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein bellsouth.net>
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>>>>On Sep 8, 8:28 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein bellsouth.net>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>On Sep 2, 2:32 am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Partical Accelerators use electro magnetic waves to accelerate
>>>>>>> particals using their charge.
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>>>>>>> Since electro magnetic waves travel at speed "c" the max speed they
>>>>>>> can force a charged partical is c.
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>>>>>>> Say there is a pipe of water and a ball in inside. And water is
>>>>>>> travelling at 2 m/ s speed. How fast the ball can be moved.
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>>>>>>> 1. initially ball is at rest.
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>>>>>>> 2. slowly its speed is 1.999 m / s.
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>>>>>>> 3. We keep increasing the flow of water at speed 2 m / s Then speed of
>>>>>>> Ball reaches 1.999999 m /.s
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>>>>>>> But never the Ball will attacin 2 m / s Why?
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>>>>>>> Because 2 m/ s is the speed of water and due to viscosity and other
>>>>>>> factors Ball can never travel faster than 2 m / s.
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>>>>>>> So you now understand why Partical Accelerators which uses electro
>>>>>>> magnetic waves can never have a partical travel at speed c.
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>>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>>> Sanny
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>>>>>>Dear Sanny:  Even inside vacuums, ether lurks.  Because ether units,
>>>>>>which I call IOTAs, are polar, such will clump together in front of
>>>>>>"speeding" charged particles.  The faster the particles are pushed,
>>>>>>the bigger is the clump of ether which resists.  That effect has
>>>>>>nothing to do with Einstein's theories!  It is due to the
>>>>>>misinterpretation of the nil results of the M-M experiment. "Yes
>>>>>>Virginia..." there is an ETHER!  — NoEinstein —
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>>>>> there's NO aether....but there's the 'stuff that fields are made of'.
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>>>>> When a charge is accelerated by a voltage between two electrodes, it builds up
>>>>> a reverse field that tends to neutralize the applied one.  Because the field
>>>>> travels at c and the particle is approaching that speed wrt chamber, a reverse
>>>>> field 'bubble' builds up around the moving charge. A lot of energy is tied up
>>>>> in that field, giving the impression of a mass increase and explaining why
>>>>> bolometer experiments seem to verify same.
>>>>> I haven't done the math but I assume it ends up with gamma appearing
>>>>> somewhere.
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>>>>> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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>>>>> All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>Dear Henri: Your devotion to your own ideas is admirable, but such
>>>>doesn't jive with all of the observations in nature, nor take into
>>>>account my very simple finding: M-M doesn't have a CONTROL.  
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>>> MMX doesn't need a control. It's explanation is trivial. Light is ballistic.
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>>>>Because
>>>>of the latter finding, Lorentz's "rubber rulers" are out; ether is in;
>>>>light velocity isn't the same for all observers; and the velocity of
>>>>light (and space travel) isn't limited by Einstein's theories, nor by
>>>>'c'.  You and I agree on some things.  But anything "Einstein" is
>>>>OUT!  — NoEinstein —
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>>> Einstein was a complete hoaxer..but he actually fluked a couple of correct
>>> equations..... like the gravitational blueshift. It is the same as the BaTh
>>> one, which is based on light accelerating as it falls.
>>> Einstein merely made light speed constant by putting a magical gradient in
>>> space to make that so...and not surprisingly came up with the right answer.
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>>> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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>>> All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text -
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>>Dear Henri:  How can you call the M-M experiment trivial?  Even though
>>it had nil results, many consider such experiment to be one of, if not
>>the, most important experiment in the history of science.  
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> The experment was only important because everyone at the time believed in an
> absolute aether.
> Without the aether, which of course doesn't exist, the MMX is so trivial that
> Michelson and Morley should have their names removed from physics history.....
> along with everyone who takes the experiment seriously.
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> Light is ballistic. That is why there was a null result.
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>>Without
>>Lorentz's ridiculous "rubber rulers" explanation for the nil results
>>of M-M, Einstein wouldn't have been able to screw up science for over
>>a century.  If anyone, before yours truly, had realized that M-M
>>lacked a CONTROL, there would be no Lorentz transformations, and no
>>space-time junk.  The only person dumber than Einstein was Lorentz!
>>That man was largely clueless—especially about the varying moduli of
>>elasticity of all materials.  Lorentz figured that velocity, and
>>velocity alone, can compress all objects an identical amount (ha!).
>>Where are "the engineers" in science when you need them?  — NoEinstein
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> Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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> There is no food shortage, just an excess of people. Send abortion pills not food aid.- Hide quoted text -
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Dear Henri: The reason there was a nil (not null) result is because
both light courses had one reflection from the 45 degree beam
splitter. The latter automatically corrects for the speed up or slow
down of the light photons hitting the mirror. Please read the
following link. — NoEinstein —

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/1e3e426fff6a5894/898737b3de57d9e6...#898737b3de57d9e6
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