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Re: Why accelerators cannot push electrons travel at speed more than "c         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: NoEinstein
Date: Sep 16, 2008 18:15

On Sep 10, 11:11 pm, doug xx.com> wrote:
> NoEinstein wrote:
>> On Sep 9, 6:52 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:52:45 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein bellsouth.net>
>>>wrote:
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>>>>On Sep 8, 8:28 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
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>>>>>On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT), NoEinstein bellsouth.net>
>>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>On Sep 2, 2:32 am, Sanny hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>Partical Accelerators use electro magnetic waves to accelerate
>>>>>>>particals using their charge.
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>>>>>>>Since electro magnetic waves travel at speed "c" the max speed they
>>>>>>>can force a charged partical is c.
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>>>>>>>Say there is a pipe of water and a ball in inside. And water is
>>>>>>>travelling at 2 m/ s speed. How fast the ball can be moved.
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>>>>>>>1. initially ball is at rest.
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>>>>>>>2. slowly its speed is 1.999 m / s.
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>>>>>>>3. We keep increasing the flow of water at speed 2 m / s Then speed of
>>>>>>>Ball reaches 1.999999 m /.s
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>>>>>>>But never the Ball will attacin 2 m / s Why?
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>>>>>>>Because 2 m/ s is the speed of water and due to viscosity and other
>>>>>>>factors Ball can never travel faster than 2 m / s.
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>>>>>>>So you now understand why Partical Accelerators which uses electro
>>>>>>>magnetic waves can never have a partical travel at speed c.
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>>>>>>>Bye
>>>>>>>Sanny
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>>>>>>Dear Sanny:  Even inside vacuums, ether lurks.  Because ether units,
>>>>>>which I call IOTAs, are polar, such will clump together in front of
>>>>>>"speeding" charged particles.  The faster the particles are pushed,
>>>>>>the bigger is the clump of ether which resists.  That effect has
>>>>>>nothing to do with Einstein's theories!  It is due to the
>>>>>>misinterpretation of the nil results of the M-M experiment. "Yes
>>>>>>Virginia..." there is an ETHER!  — NoEinstein —
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>>>>>there's NO aether....but there's the 'stuff that fields are made of'.
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>>>>>When a charge is accelerated by a voltage between two electrodes, it builds up
>>>>>a reverse field that tends to neutralize the applied one.  Because the field
>>>>>travels at c and the particle is approaching that speed wrt chamber, a reverse
>>>>>field 'bubble' builds up around the moving charge. A lot of energy is tied up
>>>>>in that field, giving the impression of a mass increase and explaining why
>>>>>bolometer experiments seem to verify same.
>>>>>I haven't done the math but I assume it ends up with gamma appearing
>>>>>somewhere.
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>>>>>Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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>>>>>All religion involves selling a nonexistant concept to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>Dear Henri: Your devotion to your own ideas is admirable, but such
>>>>doesn't jive with all of the observations in nature, nor take into
>>>>account my very simple finding: M-M doesn't have a CONTROL.  
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>>>MMX doesn't need a control. It's explanation is trivial. Light is ballistic.
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>>>>Because
>>>>of the latter finding, Lorentz's "rubber rulers" are out; ether is in;
>>>>light velocity isn't the same for all observers; and the velocity of
>>>>light (and space travel) isn't limited by Einstein's theories, nor by
>>>>'c'.  You and I agree on some things.  But anything "Einstein" is
>>>>OUT!  — NoEinstein —
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>>>Einstein was a complete hoaxer..but he actually fluked a couple of correct
>>>equations..... like the gravitational blueshift. It is the same as the BaTh
>>>one, which is based on light accelerating as it falls.
>>>Einstein merely made light speed constant by putting a magical gradient in
>>>space to make that so...and not surprisingly came up with the right answer.
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>>>Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
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>> Dear Henri:  How can you call the M-M experiment trivial?  Even though
>> it had nil results, many consider such experiment to be one of, if not
>> the, most important experiment in the history of science.  Without
>> Lorentz's ridiculous "rubber rulers" explanation for the nil results
>> of M-M, Einstein wouldn't have been able to screw up science for over
>> a century.  If anyone, before yours truly, had realized that M-M
>> lacked a CONTROL, there would be no Lorentz transformations, and no
>> space-time junk.  The only person dumber than Einstein was Lorentz!
>> That man was largely clueless—especially about the varying moduli of
>> elasticity of all materials.  Lorentz figured that velocity, and
>> velocity alone, can compress all objects an identical amount (ha!).
>> Where are "the engineers" in science when you need them?  — NoEinstein
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> Again, it is really impressive how little you actually know. Thanks
> for being willing to look silly just to entertain us.
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Folks: Doug is a persona non grata. — NoEinstein —
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