> On Sep 8, 9:07 pm, "Spaceman"
> wrote:
>>> On Sep 8, 8:41 pm, "Spaceman"
>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 8, 7:11 pm, "Spaceman"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 8, 5:20 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:44:50 -0600, Malrassic Park
>>>>>>>>
hotmail.com> wrote:>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:28:21 GMT, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Photons don't "reach" C, they are already at C to begin
>>>>>>>>>>> with. Does that mean no protons have mass?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's get that straight.
>>>>>>>>>> They initially move at c wrt their source and at c+v wrt an
>>>>>>>>>> observer moving at -v wrt the source.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow, you really are a bullshitter.
>>
>>>>>>>> Oh? Nobody has ever called me that before.
>>>>>>>> Where is the bullshit? Can't you understand plain physics?
>>
>>>>>>> Everybody who's smarter than a plate of fried Berkeley
>>>>>>> acid knows that it has been observed that c is the
>>>>>>> same regardless of the relative velocity of the source
>>>>>>> and the observer. That why Relativity came to be.
>>
>>>>>> Actually those that are "smarter than a plate of fried Berkeley
>>>>>> actually know c is a speed and can not be constant to all frames.
>>
>>>>> Remember, the quote was: "smarter than a plate of
>>>>> fried Berkeley acid." Everybody whose smarter than
>>>>> a bowl of organically grown E. Coli knows that more
>>>>> than a century ago, in those dark medieval days,
>>>>> someone thought of the bright idea of measuring the
>>>>> speed of light in different directions, to see just what
>>>>> the absolute speed of the Earth was.
>>
>>>> Actually,
>>>> They came up with the idea to see if there was an "aether"
>>>> and of course, it failed, and all the morons jumped up and
>>>> said.. oh my god.. light traveled the same speed in 2 different
>>>> directions.
>>>> And the morons still can not grasp that is only proof that
>>>> light travels at a constant "c" to all "at rest" frames only.
>>
>>>>> And, voila,
>>>>> they discovered it was the same in all directions.
>>
>>>> To only "AT REST" frames.
>>
>>>>> Imagine that. And this is in an accelerating frame
>>>>> of reference.
>>
>>>> The source nor the observer are accelerating towards
>>>> nor away from each other.
>>>> Read this part slow...
>>>> AT REST frames.
>>>> So...No proof of constant to all frames at all.
>>
>>>> All frames on Earth that are not moving wrt to the ground
>>>> are "at rest" frames on Earth.
>>>> No proof lightspeed is constant to all "frames" has been made
>>>> EVER!
>>>> And... will not be made because lightspeed can not break
>>>> the rule of "relative" speed.
>>
>>> Well, you should be able to find a quasar receding
>>> at greater than 90%% of c, then, and prove by observation
>>> that the photons from that quasar are moving at less than
>>> 10%% of c relative to us.
>>
>> Hmm?
>> 90%% speed loss?
>> I don't think that would even make it here.
>
> And yet, it has.
You know of a quasar heading away from us at 0.9c?
Where did you find such info?
>> It would be making such long waves as it flew away
>> they would be more like sound wave lengths than light wave lengths
>> :)-
>
> Um. There are 60 Hz electromagnetic waves all around us.
> That's many octaves below middle-C in terms of frequency,
> but they still move at c if they are electromagnetic waves.
No
Actually they do not move at c on Earth here.
You should learn a bit about them before you say such like that.
In fact...
It is a tiny bit slower from the atmosphere.
c is for vacuum... just like c is for cookie and it's good enough for me.
c is not for "medium" speeds.
mediums such as air and water. slow down c.
You should stop thinking anything other than such.
> Welcome to the twentieth century, yon medievalist.
Ya Ok,
Try stepping into the 21's century.
c only is true for "at rest" frames in vacuum
You really should grab a clue some year. MR 20th century.
:)
> Hint: frequency and speed are two independent variables.
Hint: speed changes frequency detected.
How old are you?
15?
You seem to be totally clueless about classical physics.
How old are you anyways?
You don't seem to be old enough to process this info
correctly yet.
--
James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
