Re: Why accelerators cannot push electrons travel at speed more than "c
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Re: Why accelerators cannot push electrons travel at speed more than "c         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Sanny
Date: Sep 2, 2008 08:40

>> Partical Accelerators use electro magnetic waves to accelerate
>> particals using their charge.
>> Since electro magnetic waves travel at speed "c" the max speed they
>> can force a charged partical is c.
>
> No. You make unwarranted assumptions and conclusions.
>
> First, Van de Graff used a d.c. potential to accelerate electrons to
> relativistic speeds. As the potential is d.c. your claims don't apply,
> but the electrons never exceeded speed c.

Even when in DC the Electric Field travels at speed of light "c".
Electric field speed is always "c".
> Second, while it is true that most modern accelerators use RF fields to
> accelerate the particles, they are designed so the RF power is a
> standing wave, carefully timed such that the particles enter the RF
> cavity when the E field is already present so the particle is
> accelerated. It should be obvious that this is the most efficient way to
> accelerate particles (why put them into the cavities when there is no E
> field present or it is aimed the wrong way?).

Here, I do not understand what you are saying.
> В > [example of ball in water]
>
> This is a very bad example, unrelated to the issue at hand. With the
> water traveling 2.000000 m/s, the ball can also travel 2.000000 m/s.
> Indeed, due to thermal and density fluctuations in the water, it can
> occasionally travel faster than 2.000000 m/s. And all bets are off for
> turbulent flow in which a small enough ball could travel several times 2
> m/s.... No analogous effects are observed for charged particles and EM
> fields -- the EM field is NOT a fluid.

I have seen in River wood is floating. And I find Wood always floats
slower than the water.

Try an experiment Have a water flow and put some wood. You will see
the wood travels slower than the water carrying it. And never faster
than the water carrying it. I think its due to viscosity of water.

Bye
Sanny

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>
> Tom Roberts
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