> Dear Mr tool short of a toolbox, if you can read look up "cultural
> essentialism" and its problems. Then look up "Racism" and why it is
> for retards.
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> There never was and never will be any such thing as an "Englishman" or
> an "American" in the sense you mean it.
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> "Multiculturalism" is not the problem but bigotry, ignorance and poor
> foreign policy are the chief causes of strife in the world.
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>>>I am Catholic (Christian), hence I beleive in Christ. I am also
>>> American, so who is America?

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>>> How can we beleive in something if it doesn't exist? When people say
>>> they're American shouldn' t they really say they're Christian or
>>> Catholic? It would be like someone saying they beleive in Christmas
>>> but not in Christ or not in the prolife movement.

>

>>> C3

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>> Before civil rights, "American" was a known quality. Like being German,
>> French, Italian, Swedish...most nationalities had a precise organic root to
>> it. We all knew what a German was, or an Englishman, etc. If one speaks
>> about a Swedish woman, does not the image of a blond fair haired beauty come
>> to mind. These identities WERE explicit.

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>> Of course, large minorities always have existed in the various nations.
>> Germans for example, have a large Turkish population...but we call them
>> Turkish as a matter of origin...you know, being from Turkey and with a
>> precise root there as well. German citizens, but were they really
>> 'German'? Minorities eventually assimilate and become part of the roots of
>> the core nationality...IF there is not too great a disparity from the
>> original. This is an important concept I argue...disparity is very relevant
>> across the world.

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>> We have worked for decades now trying to convince the world to leave old
>> world 'organic root' persona behind to embrace a new world based
>> upon...well...what? A meaningless stew of non-descript zombies
>> perhaps...everyone lost of their deeper familial ties, wandering the earth
>> like nomads without connection? They try and convince us that such old
>> world notions were primitive 'tribal' connotations that no longer have much
>> relevance in the modern world. Yet, does not there exist a symbolic and
>> even 'real' connection we all feel to our bloodlines, where my Grandfather
>> was specific and his father and his father before him...and me [and any one
>> of us] a product of that lineage that merits a connective spirit in IDENTITY
>> to what we are. That identity is not just linear, but has a spatial quality
>> to it...a planar divide of community that ties us together as peoples. I'm
>> not African, not Turkish. I could be somewhat German, or Dutch perhaps, or
>> British...mainly just european...and now American. New world elites would
>> convince us these ties no longer matter. But they do...at the deepest core
>> of what we are, they do. Else, we do become lost, untethered, wanderlusts
>> with no direction, no past, no future, no anchor in this world.

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>> Being American was an undefined but accepted notion of European and
>> Judao-Christian in ethic. No longer of course. Civil rights demanded that
>> we cease this monolithic definition and embrace a more inclusive
>> acknowledgement that being American is any and all. And it has followed in
>> a new 'multicultural' enforcement by the elites upon all of western
>> civilization.

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>> In America, we have developed a 'schizoid' persona in the masses, where
>> Columbus is now both celebrated and hated. In fact, if one observes what
>> multiculturism has really meant, one finds that western civilization is
>> balkanizing to a great degree, where neighborhoods of entirely different
>> world perspective exist side by side in a layered uneasiness of 'tolerance';
>> but not unity. Often very dipolar world views now exist tediously side by
>> side like sleeping aligators ready to pounce...much as we saw the Van Gogh
>> relative in Holland being murdered by an Islamic radical for no other reason
>> than he offended the Islamic's religion. In France, we see riots in what the
>> media wants to define as labor related, but if one observes, there is a
>> definite social quality to the very people doing the rioting. People are
>> not stupid; they see, they observe, they EXPERIENCE.

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>> As much as the elites [some of which probably profess their hegemony here on
>> this NG], want to erase our organic, familial roots, a deeper nature to
>> human existence naturally coalesces, and we recombine into our 'comfort
>> zones' that is far more than just a cultural simplicity [that could be
>> taught or learned]. Our various ways of seeing that lead to our temperment
>> in the world, probably stem from many centuries of environmental
>> reinforcement that have become hardwired in our very convulutes.

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>> In fact, we do see these differences in the very 'nation building' that has
>> filled the earth with compartmentalized 'identity' for each people as they
>> have evolved upon the land.

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>> Ah...but the elites will have none of it. They want a single stew...to
>> throw it all together under some new world intellectualism where labor and
>> capital are put to it's best use...or perhaps where a proletariat might
>> exist in all fairness to a bourgeois ownership. Screw our national
>> identities..."humans are stupid, ignorant, and backwards", the intellectuals
>> have decreed...let's take away their gods, take away their nations, take
>> away their family connections, and mix it all up for a better harmony.
>> Integrate, Integrate, Integrate. A new assimilation on a global scale will
>> yeild a more harmonious existence where war and strife will be eliminated,
>> and difference lost. A single human race. Sounds great.

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>> Like with communism, such elites fail to acknowledge to the masses [and
>> perhaps even themselves], that forcing an integrated world means reducing
>> all culture to the lowest common denominator to work. The best and finest
>> of all civilization across the world will be lost...though what we WILL gain
>> is economic efficiency and a much better material existence for all people.
>> Absolute materialism leads to a jaded psyche...and profound emptiness, like
>> a drug which one needs greater and greater dosages to reclaim even a small
>> degree of the joy once felt. And absolute materialism destroys human
>> relations, the true harbinger of what makes people tick...and fullfilled [if
>> there is any chance at all]. Yet, multiculturism's base premise is that of
>> absolute materialism.

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>> Already, we are being surrounded by more and more chaos, where our values
>> are being undermined, our cultures assaulted. Many already become like
>> eggshells without the yolks, empty, going through the motions. Socialism
>> kills incentive. So does multiculturism. It takes away one of the most
>> basic reasons for existing...family ties. It kills the human spirit.

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>> The elites do not say much about the spiritual aspect of humanity. The
>> elites don't even recognize a spirituality even exists [Sir?]...just brains
>> and nerve endings. To them a mexican worker is just as acceptable as an
>> 'American' worker [the old identity]...so let's erase borders and let the
>> migrations exist...and the nations dissolve. The elites are already now
>> "non-aligned', almost as enemies of the state when one thinks about it. GE,
>> for instance, could give a squat's ass care about America, supply Iran with
>> parts to kill American soldiers in Iraq. But that's the new corporate global
>> touch..."be friends to all", allegence to no one; as long the production
>> lines roll.

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>> The new intellectuals would sell their own grandmothers down the river...and
>> indeed are.

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>> Multiculturism. Chaos would have no better friend. Remember, when you try
>> and combine a lot of 'fractions', you must reduce it all to the lowest
>> common denominator. On a social global scale, I argue that means reducing
>> humankind to it's most amoral base of prurient animalness. And we wonder
>> why promiscuity and pornography is up while family existence is deteriating.

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>> Ok, about time for one of Immort's library downloads about Tribalism or
>> something; ha. Eskimoes might be sold ice cubes...but I think anyone that
>> stops and does a little introspection about what makes them tick, they will
>> see that family is paramount...not just the immediate, but one's heritage,
>> one's nation.