>>>>> Beliefs cause division and discord. Transcend the beliefs and feel
>>>>> harmony and completeness.
>>>>>
>>>>> BOfL
>>>>>
>>
>> Well, you forced me to do a bit of reading up on Jainism. I knew there
>> was a good reason I liked the people of India. Man, I wish there was
>> some way we could really 'know' what the fuck this is all about. All my
>> searches come to dead
ends...convulsing back to nihilism and dead meat
>> stuff...and then regaining composure, falling back once again upon
>> traditional beliefs of my enculturation. There's always 'some' merit I
>> find in most any school [even the despicable ones, like fascism]; that
>> 'virtuous content' that probably inspired that school's existence to
>> begin with.
>>
>> But I still embrace Christ, in my own way [ha, many hard nosed sects
>> would not like that "in my own way" of course, but you do what you have
>> to do], and I feel fortunate that I can 'still beleve' in the
>> foundational principles [what I believe are the founding principles
>> anyway...not so much Calvanist Grace perceptions]. But I like a lot of
>> these Jainist ideas [from a short read]...but not sure how they fit in a
>> 'rational' predatory world built upon food chains etc.
>>
>> I've come to believe Suffering is inescapable...so the best, even perhaps
>> most rational stance, is to somehow make 'suffering' a part of one's
>> philosophy...to somehow rationalize a 'purpose' to it. Suffering creates
>> a 'stress' upon consciousness I've found [boy, does it ever, ha]...and
>> with 'faith' [or perhaps a stoic acceptance], something can happen if
>> these powerfully suppressed energies are focused in the right way. I
>> equate it much to how diamonds are made from coal...through tremendous
>> pressure...and the human spirit can be 'molded' in this powerful
>> foundry-like influence upon our psyche we call 'suffering' where on the
>> other side, a kind of spontaneous implosion can come about...and
>> wahlah...a 'star' is born, ha. Well, sort of. The implosion/explosion is
>> what some call the 'religious experience'...and it truly is something to
>> behold. One comes away changed, not just in consciousness, but in
>> perceptions. And weirdest thing of all, much of the Christian dogma once
>> seen as 'vague' at best, becomes much more clear. The explosion is made
>> of the very stuff we call 'meaning'...like a thing without cause, or
>> justification...just 'force' that fills upon the empty voids. Gotta have
>> a word for it...you know, to placate our brains that work upon
>> 'symbols'...but you can't really define it except to say it is this
>> 'force' in and of itself. Oh crap...why do I even try [to explain the
>> unexplainable]. Shit...just go crazy. That's all. Fuck the sanity of
>> the world...it is horrible.
>>
>> The Jainists apparently believe in something of this 'stoic acceptance of
>> suffering [if I read correctly anyway]. I dunno...I just dunno.
>> Offering one's other cheek seems a bit against the 'predatory nature'
>> this world places upon us. Instinct is to 'fight back'...so I just
>> dunno. Maybe serving one's self up to be 'food' for something else is a
>> better way. Get's you a cross in Arlington Semetary anywho...LOL. Ah
>> well.
>>
>> Goddamnit all...why are we born without so many answers...and all the
>> ones we get...the hard core ones we cannot deny...leave us so empty. Why
>> does consciousness place such demands upon it's existence that there
>> simply MUST be some meaning to it all.
>>
>> If this is just about natural selection, playing into the hands of those
>> with bigger fangs and claws without moral merit...I say, from a human
>> standpoint, it's bogus; we should work somehow to end this convuluted
>> nightmare [ha, those animals among us with big teeth and giant claw would
>> object to that I"m sure, ha]. But fuck them for all the pain they heap
>> upon the rest of us.
>>
>> Christ still embodies at least a spirit I can believe in...strive to
>> somehow emulate and make real [as Sir says, to 'practice' until it
>> becomes my reality, ha]. We have to imagine western civ has been
>> practicing this particular story for many centuries now...and some
>> realization has become innate. Maybe we should take a hint from the
>> Jainists and not pull 'roots out' (sic) so willy-nilly [as modern ratonal
>> secular nihilists seem to want to do].
> The Christ "consciousness" is real, valid and a realm of great discomfort.
>
> The discomfort comes about because of the conflict between the objective
> and subjective world.It could well be labled as a 'plane of
> amplification'.
>
> The subtle meaning of the cross, being the 'cross member' (no pun
> intended) is the obstacle one has to pass to complete "I".
> Some metaphysicians such as Mm Blavastki from Thoesophy fame, refer to it
> as the "second grand division".
>
> Of course many religionists see the "other side" as a time issue, and not
> a state of consciousness.
>
> Thereby lies their conflict.
>
> BOfL
>
