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Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: Day Brown
Date: May 11, 2008 09:42

Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
more than other prey animals.

To the yeoman farmers of temperate zone Europe and China, the need to
manage resources at a fixed location to endure the winter setup a very
different view of what we now call "property rights".

Tribes always had shamen and witches who raised the kids of
incompetent parents because the kids mite have the immune responses to
pandemics.

Barford, "The Early Slavs" shows us a yeoman farmer alternative, in
which a young couple would take tools and seed into the vast forests
of Europe, build a tiny log cabin, as we now say, "pioneer". they
didnt need strong immune systems. There was nobody around to give them
anything. what they needed was self control and good parenting skills.

There was no social safety net. You either put up the firewood and
food to survive the winter, or you died, and were out of the gene
pool. They are, of course, the ancestors of many of us, and we've
inherited many of their attitudes about self reliance and resource
management.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: raven1
Date: May 11, 2008 11:39

On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Day Brown
hughes.net> wrote:
>Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
>nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
>more than other prey animals.

Are you seriously stating that all hunting and nomadic peoples
practice cannibalism? You're badly confused.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: Witziges Rätsel
Date: May 11, 2008 12:52

"Day Brown" hughes.net> wrote in message
news:af366156-7443-4017-855f-c9eb219e5600@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Different lifestyles evolve different moral values.
>
Moral principles are tested by their consequences.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: Free Lunch
Date: May 11, 2008 12:58

On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Day Brown
hughes.net> wrote:
>Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
>nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
>more than other prey animals.

You are profoundly ignorant. Tribes did fight, but they also made formal
agreements with each other, often sealed by intermarriage. Landed
property has nothing to do with morality.
>To the yeoman farmers of temperate zone Europe and China, the need to
>manage resources at a fixed location to endure the winter setup a very
>different view of what we now call "property rights".

Which, again, has nothing to do with morality and certainly is not
religious.
>Tribes always had shamen and witches who raised the kids of
>incompetent parents because the kids mite have the immune responses to
>pandemics.

That made no sense.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: norrin
Date: May 11, 2008 14:43

On May 11, 9:42 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
> Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
> nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
> more than other prey animals.
>
> To the yeoman farmers of temperate zone Europe and China, the need to
> manage resources at a fixed location to endure the winter setup a very
> different view of what we now call "property rights".

Property has rights? Are you saying the peasants of Europe respected
the right of a tree to exist? You're confused if you think yeomen
aren't
hunters.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: Martha Adams
Date: May 11, 2008 17:39

"norrin" hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5933efbc-c2c3-4a9e-a61d-49a86d458154@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 11, 9:42 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>> Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
>> nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
>> more than other prey animals.
>>
>> To the yeoman farmers of temperate zone Europe and China, the need to
>> manage resources at a fixed location to endure the winter setup a
>> very
>> different view of what we now call "property rights".
>
> Property has rights? Are you saying the peasants of Europe respected
> the right of a tree to exist? You're confused if you think yeomen
> aren't
> hunters.
>
>> Tribes always had shamen and witches who raised the kids of
>> incompetent parents because the kids mite have the immune responses
>> to ...
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: chibiabos
Date: May 11, 2008 19:43

In article
27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Day
Brown hughes.net> wrote:
> Tribes always had shamen

It's "shamans," you imbecile. Get an education before posting drivel.

-chib

--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
Date: May 11, 2008 21:45

(Snipped irrelevant ng rec.arts.sf.written which was obviously added for
trolling purposes only)

Day Brown:
> Which non-whites, other than temperate zone East Asians, have not.

Considering how incoherent the posting was written it is not clear whether
the moron wants to call all educated people (Darwinists? Do you call those
who accept gravity "Newtonists" or what?!) racists or whether it holds
racist views itself.

Either way, there is exactly one proper answer to this posting...

...*PLONK*

--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...

My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: John Baker
Date: May 11, 2008 22:29

On Sun, 11 May 2008 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT), Day Brown
hughes.net> wrote:

Simple. We just observe what Christians do - and then do the opposite.
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Re: Where do Darwinists get moral values?         


Author: tg
Date: May 12, 2008 08:16

On May 11, 8:39 pm, "Martha Adams" verizon.net> wrote:
> "norrin" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5933efbc-c2c3-4a9e-a61d-49a86d458154@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 9:42 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>>> Different lifestyles evolve different moral values. To hunters and
>>> nomads, the whole world is free range, and all strangers are nothing
>>> more than other prey animals.
>
>>> To the yeoman farmers of temperate zone Europe and China, the need to
>>> manage resources at a fixed location to endure the winter setup a
>>> very
>>> different view of what we now call "property rights".
>
>> Property has rights? Are you saying the peasants of Europe respected
>> the right of a tree to exist? You're confused if you think yeomen
>> aren't ...
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