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>> On May 26, 10:50 pm, veritas yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> On May 22, 11:46 pm, PhaedraCeleste yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>> On May 21, 11:48 pm, veritas yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>>> On May 21, 3:05 pm, "Mike Schilling" hotmail.com>
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>>>>>> veritas wrote:

>>>>>>>   P.S. Gilligan and Skipper, oh, I wished that out of my mind.

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>>>>>> "Hey, little buddy!"

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>>>>> Hey Skipper, as we have been arguing about about bombs and bullets and
>>>>> Mary Ann, what happened to our subject?  I've forgotten now, so bring
>>>>> me up to speed.
>>>>> Where did Darwin get Atheists back then, why did he want them, and as
>>>>> they would have been grown and already had their moral values why did
>>>>> they have to get more?  Or am I missing something there?  Top bunk is
>>>>> mine.  If you believe in Darwin now, (which I do), why would anyone
>>>>> think they might not have moral?  I'm agnostic, and in business, I
>>>>> have better morals than a lot of religious people have.  As a matter
>>>>> of fact, they sometimes use religion as an excuse to screw you, if you
>>>>> can believe that.  And I am taking into account "what I do is not
>>>>> screwing you, but fair.  What you are doing to me is screwing me."  We
>>>>> all do that.  It's like using "greed", that is a word applied to
>>>>> others, never yourself.   Ken Hogan

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>>>> I'm a Christian thus I hate to agree with you in that oftentimes
>>>> Christians act in a way that would deter agnostics/atheists from
>>>> having much inclination to change their beliefs. One of my very good
>>>> friends is an agnostic and she is one of the most insightful, moral
>>>> people I know and, much as she might like to have faith of some higher
>>>> power to believe in, the more she sees "proper Christians" in action
>>>> the further it proves her point that they often wear that "title" as
>>>> some sort of all cleansing coverall so they can do despicable things
>>>> knowing God will forgive them. Unfortunately it seems the higher up on
>>>> the pecking order one is in organized religion the more one feel
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>>> PhaedraCeleste, you know I rarely, if ever disagree with your
>>> thinking.  You seem to be able to step back at look at a subject with
>>> fresh eyes. no matter your personal feelings on it.  I have seen
>>> Christians I didn't know were Christians because they just lived the
>>> life, they weren't "praying on the streecorner". I thought they were
>>> just good people.  It was quite a shock with one of the men died, and
>>> I went to his funeral.  Most people had to stand outside.  Well, if
>>> there is this Christian God and Jesus, I know you are not one of those
>>> "streetcorner" people.  You live it, and never judge others. Your
>>> reward will be where it is supposed to be.  Of course, I have seen you
>>> lose your temper from time to....well, now that's judging is it not?
>>> I will follow in your footsteps, and not judge you even after you have
>>> sliced someone's argument to pieces. (With good reason, I will add.)
>>> Always good to hear from you.  Asgnotic is not good you know, it's
>>> sad.  But life is what it is.
>>> Reards to you as always, I was on buiness most of Memorial Day and
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>> As always you continue to be both a gentleman and a scholar(and manage
>> to boost my ego in the process-bonus! lol ;). Business on Memorial
>> weekend? tsk, tsk! I was enjoying the 'good life' camping and the like
>> and have been busy with other extracurriculars since-figured I better
>> check in and see if my friend (yes, you silly! :) had deigned me
>> worthy of a response...okay, okay, I found myself off topic (who, me?
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> I was actually PREPARING for yesterday and today and both deals went
> through!  Usually, you are juggling four or five deals and one or two
> come through, sometimes none do.  This time both of them, and they
> were long term deals, so not bad.
>   My wife's idea of roughing it is a Holiday Inn.  You can absolutely
> forget the water, mountains, anywhere that is more than 5 miles from a
> large mall (can't be a small one) and she is in the wilderness.
> Myself, I free climbed until my knees gave way, and snow skied until
> the fourth knee surgery.  So now I'm just working and writing you when
> you write, which is ever so rarely anymore.  She wants my book to be
> made into a movie, (a really good screenwriter is reading it now) or
> our businesses do well enough to go public and she can move to
> Manhattan.  That is her dream.  I could use some of the other
> extracurriculars myself. (That's pretty racy talk for you, young
> lady!)  However, I am fine, still stumbling around looking for my
> moral values.  Found one the other day,  #2 (I know that's not many
> but I'll get there.)  Anyway #2: Never hand your beer to another guy
> and say, "Watch this, your not going to believe it."  That is now a
> solid moral value I will keep!  I'm going with Bill Clinton, and just
> keep eight, so six more and I have it down.
>   As we almost always agree on things, we are friends (and believe me,
> a friend on here is rarer than an uncooked steak.  As Harry Truman
> said, "In Washington, if you want a friend, go buy a dog.")  Maybe not
> that bad, but I was simply being honest when I said you usually step
> back and look at issues with fresh eyes.  So as I know morals are the
> issue here, Obama, or McCain?  I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with
> the old white man.  You know five years in a POW camp had to leave
> scars inside, but sitting in that Church for twenty had to leave scars
> as well, and he is in his first term as a Senator.  He needs to age
> some.  Powell, I would have voted for in a second.  What do you say?
> This should be interesting.  Hope you answer quicker.  Although, I
> guess we have a while.  Regards, and your friend on here, Ken Hogan
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> "Truth does not give a damn what we perceive.  We survive or perish
> according to our ability to discern the truth correctly and act upon
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