> On May 23, 1:36 pm, veritas yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On May 22, 10:08 pm, Michael Price yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> On May 13, 12:28 am, Bill Patterson gmail.com> wrote:

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>>>> On May 11, 8:55�am, Howard Brazee brazee.net> wrote:

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>>>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 07:21:43 -0700 (PDT), Bill Patterson

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>>>>>>"Genes that guide our moral judgment" is just silly, except in the
>>>>>>limited sense that we have individual predispositions to find some
>>>>>>things pleasurable or not.

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>>>>> Of course it is easy to observe in other species characteristics which
>>>>> look like morality. � What causes those?

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>>>> Since morality is possible only to the willful, any tracing of origins
>>>> and genealogy would be simply expanding on an analogy that is not very
>>>> apt.  Attributing human-like motivations to non-humans is a literary
>>>> device, not an ethical tool.

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>>>   No it's an interpretation of the evidence which is fairly
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>>> several species are capable of making moral distinctions.  For
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>>> some apes when given a reward for an action that is less than the
>>> reward they saw another ape being given for the same action get angry.
>>> This indicates that they consider not just what makes them happen (the
>>> reward does) but what is "fair".  Several species have been observed
>>> helping others and being helped in return even though there is no
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>> That is why they must be wiped out immediately!  We decide what is
>> fair, don't give them the chance to help anything even though there is
>> no direct reward for helping.  Really bad habit to let animals start
>> that crap.  Next is calls for equal gun permits.   Ken Hogan

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