On Jun 2, 7:50Â pm, PhaedraCeleste
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>>> On May 22, 11:46Â pm, PhaedraCeleste
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>>> On May 21, 11:48Â pm, veritas
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>>>> On May 21, 3:05Â pm, "Mike Schilling"
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>>>>> veritas wrote:
>>>>>> Â P.S. Gilligan and Skipper, oh, I wished that out of my mind.
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>>>>> "Hey, little buddy!"
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>>>> Hey Skipper, as we have been arguing about about bombs and bullets and
>>>> Mary Ann, what happened to our subject? Â I've forgotten now, so bring
>>>> me up to speed.
>>>> Where did Darwin get Atheists back then, why did he want them, and as
>>>> they would have been grown and already had their moral values why did
>>>> they have to get more? Â Or am I missing something there? Â Top bunk is
>>>> mine. Â If you believe in Darwin now, (which I do), why would anyone
>>>> think they might not have moral? Â I'm agnostic, and in business, I
>>>> have better morals than a lot of religious people have. Â As a matter
>>>> of fact, they sometimes use religion as an excuse to screw you, if you
>>>> can believe that. Â And I am taking into account "what I do is not
>>>> screwing you, but fair. Â What you are doing to me is screwing me." Â We
>>>> all do that. Â It's like using "greed", that is a word applied to
>>>> others, never yourself. Â Ken Hogan
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>>> I'm a Christian thus I hate to agree with you in that oftentimes
>>> Christians act in a way that would deter agnostics/atheists from
>>> having much inclination to change their beliefs. One of my very good
>>> friends is an agnostic and she is one of the most insightful, moral
>>> people I know and, much as she might like to have faith of some higher
>>> power to believe in, the more she sees "proper Christians" in action
>>> the further it proves her point that they often wear that "title" as
>>> some sort of all cleansing coverall so they can do despicable things
>>> knowing God will forgive them. Unfortunately it seems the higher up on
>>> the pecking order one is in organized religion the more one feel
>>> entitled to act in the most unmoralistic fashion with no real sense of
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>> PhaedraCeleste, you know I rarely, if ever disagree with your
>> thinking. Â You seem to be able to step back at look at a subject with
>> fresh eyes. no matter your personal feelings on it. Â I have seen
>> Christians I didn't know were Christians because they just lived the
>> life, they weren't "praying on the streecorner". I thought they were
>> just good people. Â It was quite a shock with one of the men died, and
>> I went to his funeral. Â Most people had to stand outside. Â Well, if
>> there is this Christian God and Jesus, I know you are not one of those
>> "streetcorner" people. Â You live it, and never judge others. Your
>> reward will be where it is supposed to be. Â Of course, I have seen you
>> lose your temper from time to....well, now that's judging is it not?
>> I will follow in your footsteps, and not judge you even after you have
>> sliced someone's argument to pieces. (With good reason, I will add.)
>> Always good to hear from you. Â Asgnotic is not good you know, it's
>> sad. Â But life is what it is.
>> Reards to you as always, I was on buiness most of Memorial Day and
>> didn't get a chance to see your post. Â Ken Hogan- Hide quoted text -
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> As always you continue to be both a gentleman and a scholar(and manage
> to boost my ego in the process-bonus! lol ;). Business on Memorial
> weekend? tsk, tsk! I was enjoying the 'good life' camping and the like
> and have been busy with other extracurriculars since-figured I better
> check in and see if my friend (yes, you silly! :) had deigned me
> worthy of a response...okay, okay, I found myself off topic (who, me?
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I was actually PREPARING for yesterday and today and both deals went
through! Usually, you are juggling four or five deals and one or two
come through, sometimes none do. This time both of them, and they
were long term deals, so not bad.
My wife's idea of roughing it is a Holiday Inn. You can absolutely
forget the water, mountains, anywhere that is more than 5 miles from a
large mall (can't be a small one) and she is in the wilderness.
Myself, I free climbed until my knees gave way, and snow skied until
the fourth knee surgery. So now I'm just working and writing you when
you write, which is ever so rarely anymore. She wants my book to be
made into a movie, (a really good screenwriter is reading it now) or
our businesses do well enough to go public and she can move to
Manhattan. That is her dream. I could use some of the other
extracurriculars myself. (That's pretty racy talk for you, young
lady!) However, I am fine, still stumbling around looking for my
moral values. Found one the other day, #2 (I know that's not many
but I'll get there.) Anyway #2: Never hand your beer to another guy
and say, "Watch this, your not going to believe it." That is now a
solid moral value I will keep! I'm going with Bill Clinton, and just
keep eight, so six more and I have it down.
As we almost always agree on things, we are friends (and believe me,
a friend on here is rarer than an uncooked steak. As Harry Truman
said, "In Washington, if you want a friend, go buy a dog.") Maybe not
that bad, but I was simply being honest when I said you usually step
back and look at issues with fresh eyes. So as I know morals are the
issue here, Obama, or McCain? I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with
the old white man. You know five years in a POW camp had to leave
scars inside, but sitting in that Church for twenty had to leave scars
as well, and he is in his first term as a Senator. He needs to age
some. Powell, I would have voted for in a second. What do you say?
This should be interesting. Hope you answer quicker. Although, I
guess we have a while. Regards, and your friend on here, Ken Hogan
"Truth does not give a damn what we perceive. We survive or perish
according to our ability to discern the truth correctly and act upon
it." - Ken Hogan
www.veritasnovel.com
