On Aug 30, 4:10Â am, Paul
gmail.com> wrote:> On Aug 29, 1:51Â pm, Sir Frederick
fuzzysys.com> wrote:
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>>> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Paul
gmail.com> wrote:>>>On Aug 29, 11:41Â am, Sir Frederick
fuzzysys.com> wrote:>
>>>> Consider insanity as a defense. See earlier posts.
>>>> Also, to consider the personal virtual reality produced by our
>>>> brain as "reality" may have worked 10,000 years ago, today,
>>>> that act is insane. Thus your symptoms, among other things.
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>>>> Also, human hubris is overwhelming. Anticipate catastrophes.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>So you're saying our brain is still programmed to act as if we were
>>>still apes in the savannah? (more or less)
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>> Worse than that. All the legacy animal biases, interpretations, and "feelings"
>> are all there in force. Then "on top" of that we have
>> fantasy models of what is and means to be reality that we consider
>> "reality". For instance : "look" at your computer, what "you"
>> envision is a brain produced fantasy vision that you call a "real"
>> computer. You are having insane delusions, you are insane.
>> Now consider that all do the same with all contexts, including
>> things, others, and self. All without any consideration that what we
>> envision is a brain artifact, not "reality".
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>> Also, here is a repeat post :
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>> Why We Are All Insane
>> Tuesday, August 26, 2008
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>> By Robin Nixon
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>> Natural selection wants us to be crazy — at least a little bit. While true
>> debilitating insanity is not nature's intention, many mental health issues may
>> be byproducts of the over-functional human brain, some researchers claim.
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>> As humans improved their gathering, hunting and cooking techniques, population
>> size increased and resources became more limited (in part because we hunted or
>> ate some species to extinction). As a result, not everyone could get enough to
>> eat. Cooperative relationships were critical to ensuring access to food, whether
>> through farming or more strategic hunting, and those with blunt social skills
>> were unlikely to survive, explained David C. Geary, author of "The Origin of
>> Mind" (APA, 2004), and a researcher at the University of Missouri.
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>> And thus, a diversity of new mental abilities, and disabilities, unfurled.
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>> The nature of joy
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>> It might seem as though modern man should have evolved to be happy and
>> harmonious. But nature cares about genes, not joy, Geary said.
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>> Mental illnesses hinder one in every four adults in America every year,
>> according to the National Institute of Mental Health. And this doesn’t count
>> those of us with more moderate mood swings.
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>> To explain our susceptibility to poor mental health, Randolph Nesse in "The
>> Handbook of Evolutionary Psychology" (Wiley, 2005) compares the human brain with
>> race horses: Just as horse breeding has selected for long thin legs that
>> increase speed but are prone to fracture, cognitive advances also increase
>> fitness — to a point.
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>> Let's take common mental conditions one-by-one.
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>> People with aggressive and narcissistic personalities are the easiest to
>> understand evolutionarily; they look out for number one. But even if 16 million
>> men today can trace their genes to Genghis Khan (nature's definition of
>> uber-success can be measured by his prolific paternity), very few potential
>> despots achieve such heights. Perhaps to check selfish urges, in favor of more
>> probable means to biological success, social lubricants such as empathy, guilt
>> and mild anxiety arose.
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>> For example, the first of our ancestors to empathize and read facial expressions
>> had a striking advantage. They could confirm their own social status and
>> convince others to share food and shelter. But too much emotional acuity — when
>> individuals overanalyze every grimace — can cause a motivational nervousness
>> about one's social value to morph into a relentless handicapping anxiety.
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>> Pondering the future
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>> Another cognitive innovation made it possible to compare potential futures.
>> While other animals focus on the present, only humans, said Geary, "sit and
>> worry about what will happen three years from now if I do that or this." Our
>> ability to think things over, and over, can be counterproductive and lead to
>> obsessive tendencies.
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>> Certain types of depression, however, Geary continued, may be advantageous. The
>> lethargy and disrupted mental state can help us disengage from unattainable
>> goals — whether it is an unrequited love or an exalted social position.
>> Evolution likely favored individuals who pause and reassess ambitions, instead
>> of wasting energy being blindly optimistic.
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>> Natural selection also likely held the door open for disorders such as attention
>> deficit. Quickly abandoning a low stimulus situation was more helpful for male
>> hunters than female gatherers, writes Nesse, which may explain why boys are five
>> times more likely than girls to be hyperactive.
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>> Similarly, in its mildest form, bipolar disorder can increase productivity and
>> creativity. Bipolar individuals (and their relatives) also often have more sex
>> than average people, Geary noted.
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>> Sex, and survival of one's kids, is the whole point — as far as nature is
>> concerned. Sometimes unpleasant mental states lead to greater reproductive
>> success, said Geary, "so these genes stay in the gene pool."
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> Appreciate it. Very interesting too.
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> But this doesn't explain why someone like me, who feels and believes
> people have great potential to do great things, who feels and believes
> we don't need to kill each other over "gods",
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> OK, I understand that we have complicated life and our brains can't
> handle things. But that doesn't mean we are too insane to say "You
> know what? I think we need to stop blowing each other up".
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> I may be insane, but I've got enough rational cells left to understand
> this. I could easily rape, murder, and act out my anger, but I don't.
> There's just no need. I Â have better things to do.
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> So why doesn't the rest of the world "get it" ?
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> Or maybe I *am* insane, and I should be murdering, raping, etc. Seems
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Part of the group consciousnes in the "free" world today, is
manipiulated by emphasising 'exreme minority' activities.
As horrendous as 9/11 was, there are more children dying each day from
preventable diseases than on that terrible day, but just stand back
and look which has had the most effect on the 'group think'
particularly in your country.
A combination of blissful ignorance and painful awakening (for the
inividual).
BOfL
