On Aug 30, 3:04Â am, Paul
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>>> On Aug 30, 1:07Â am, Paul
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>>> We kill each other and even ourselves for a god that we don't even
>>> know exists.
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>>> We kill each other over money or silly disputes, or even for the
>>> enjoyment of it.
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>>> We murder, rape, molest and kill our own children.
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>>> Yes, there are many positives, but the above negatives, and those
>>> unmentioned, far outweigh any positives.
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>>> We're a mess.
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>>> We have so much potential for great things, yet, it's like we prefer
>>> to act juvenile and immature.
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>>> Maybe that's because we ARE a juvenile and immature species?
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>>> But after 10,000 or more years, you'd think we'd get the picture by
>>> now?
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>>> I beleive we are far worse than animals. Even parasites.
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>>> It's like we're a disease. I know we have potential to do great things
>>> for ourselves, each other, and the planet but it's like the human race
>>> would rather act like a spoiled child who's parents are out of the
>>> house for the night.
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>> Thats exactly why I stated looking for answers in my early twenties. I
>> knew deep down, how much incredible quality existed amongst people
>> also.
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>> Those facts started me wondering if there was some sort of a
>> graduation programme going on. That evolution was actually a spiritual
>> reality, where the sort you refer to were at the early stage, compared
>> with people like you who can stand back, look and question.
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>> All as I can say, is that there are answers if you look with
>> commitment and confidence in yor own level of discernment.The 'we' you
>> refer to covers an incredible spectrum of consciousness.
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> thanks for you words.
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> In my late twenties I delved into Anarchism. I went to an Anarchist
> book shop. Started reading literature. But soon realised Anarchism
> isn't the answer either, and gave up on that. Though it was good to
> learn about something so "tabboo".
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> I don't know about "spirituality". I'd like to thing there's something
> greater than us, than this life, but I don't know.
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> I even feel sick at times for bringing a child into this world today,
> knowing how worse it is, than when I grew up in the 70's.
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> This whole electing 1 person in the "united states" (where I live) to
> lead BILLIONS is so asburd, and has rekindled all these feelings
> ("what's wrong with us").
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> I need a time machine, so I can live in that future planet where
> everyone just eats fruit and swims but underground are those
> "murlocks" or whatever. At least then I would be blissfully ignorant
> to life.
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I was introduced by a genius to the internet in the early 90's. The
first description he gave me was that this was the road of 'true
anarchy". I have long since discovered that every idealism has a seed
of truth that can be discovered when you "get above" the 'group think'
details.
The term "spiritual" really pisses me off. Too much religious
association. Effort to expand ones state of consciousness beyond the
norm is a bit wordy. Ill have to try and come up with a suitable
archroym:-)
I was born in '50 in Northern England, where I suffered bronchitis and
asthma due to the incredibly polluted atmosphere. Regular smog, and
the Mersey (clue.. yea yea yeah) was nothing more than an open
sewer.Young ladies were 'sent away' to have their illigitimate babies,
and many died at the hands of back street abortionists. The priest
used to knock on doors (my mothers catholic experiences..Angelas Ashes
being accurate,) and use emotional blackmail to grab what little money
her ever suffering dad could provide for his 10 children, informing
them on the way out "the lord will provide".
Now smog is a thing of the past. Just healthy fog, sea trout have
been seen migrating up the river, and some of the priests have been
seen floating down it (just kidding...they wear concrete boots, (that
the lord obviously provided :-). Lived through the nuclear threat,
suffered 'educaton by fear of corporal punishment', and was generally
being prepared as more cannon fodder as were my parents and my parents
parents parents :-) for their lord and masters.
Great background to use the freedoms we now have to 'look deeper'
withour fear (religious or otherwise).
I have two daughters in their late teens, and Im thrilled that they
are living in a society that doesnt suffer the 'imposed' circumstances
we did. That they have choices that are not dominated by trying to
escape pollution and poverty.
Sure, their are new challenges, but I know where I prefer to
be...cough cough splutter splutter, wheeze wheeze....oops, just had a
flash back ;-)
I suggest a therapy of 12 hours of continually playing "Its A
Wonderful World" by Sachmo, while contemplating on his infectious
grin.
Four phases of man. Tortured ignorance, blissful ignorance, tortured
awakening, and blissful awareness. We each can only appreciate each
stage with hindsight of the previous stage.Stage four is more
individually realized
Ive spent some time eating fruit and swimming. A nice distraction, but
temporary. We are by nature, 'growing' entities, and always seek
challenge. Knowing this takes you to 'level 4'. Always unknown steps,
always exciting 'being'.
Ohhhhh Yeeeeaaahhhhh...
Thanks for your thanks...quite rare around here :-)
BOfL
