On Aug 24, 5:40Â am, Sir Frederick
fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:27 -0400, "tooly"
bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>"Sir Frederick"
fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:8ti2b4lph82peru4o7lim8f9hol0um5r0h@4ax.com...>>> Hubris, and lots of really destructive, anachronistic models of what it is
>>> and means to be human and humans,
>>> Also, genetically we still live in caves as just more complex yeast cells.
>
>>You can't really blame us. Â We all just woke up here. Â There is nothing to
>>answer our questions for us directly, so we are shackled to waving wildly
>>about in the darkness trying to make some sense of all this. Â Science has
>>made inroads but leaves us demoralized....and I'm not so sure we CAN survive
>>long in such a state.
>
>>Hubris and deception aside, what other options do we have...have we had? Â I
>>can't blame the church for the people there were trying with all they could
>>muster at any given time to find truth...in their own way; the sincere ones
>>anyway...and most were. Â Theirs was a spiritual truth based upon a certain
>>state of BEing.
>
>>What many elites cannot understand is the plight of the common modern
>>human...trapped in mundane lives, lost of the favors of innocense early on
>>now [thanks to television and technology in general]. Â Some people are
>>winners of course, but the masses...the great middle classes of our
>>societies that make or break us...that is where the morbidity sinks in deep
>>as we lose all sense of any higher order or anything to believe in or
>>uphold.
>
>>We are intelligent enough it seems that we can unravel our very selves...and
>>then find the emptiness that stands where once we at least 'thought' we had
>>a heart.
>
> As I have said before, humans are IMO only an intermediate.
> We must work toward the "singularity". Post singularity creatures can
> then do the space thing.
I think your AI "singularity (or, rather, Kurzweil's) is just a pipe
dream. Where are my flying cars? I recall back in the day,
there were predictions that we'd have intelligent machines
by the present day. We still don't even know what conciousness
is in an algorithmic sense, or whether it is expressible as
algorithms. I doubt that it is. Computers will probably just
continue to be tools, just because there is an intractable
problem here. And why anyone would want it any other way
is beyond me.
