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Author: C3C3 Date: Aug 24, 2008 02:35
Sometimes I wonder if the Catholic Church (of whom I'm a member) wants
us to wait before exploring space travel. Why else have we halted
space travel so much since putting a man on the moon? Any scientist
who is informed knows that we have the technology to at least send a
mission to Mars, we lack only the funding and support of the
citizens. We wouldn't even have current cell phone technology if it
weren't for the space programs. There is so much to gain by exploring
space travel, and perhaps nothing to lose.
If you want written proof of how easy it is to settle on Mars, and
also mine the Galaxy (Universe?) read "The Millennial Project:
Colonizing the Galaxy in Eight Easy Steps" by Marshall T. Savage
C3
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 24, 2008 04:59
Hubris, and lots of really destructive, anachronistic models of what it is
and means to be human and humans,
Also, genetically we still live in caves as just more complex yeast cells.
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Author: toolytooly Date: Aug 24, 2008 05:22
"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
news:8ti2b4lph82peru4o7lim8f9hol0um5r0h@4ax.com...> Hubris, and lots of really destructive, anachronistic models of what it is
> and means to be human and humans,
> Also, genetically we still live in caves as just more complex yeast cells.
You can't really blame us. We all just woke up here. There is nothing to
answer our questions for us directly, so we are shackled to waving wildly
about in the darkness trying to make some sense of all this. Science has
made inroads but leaves us demoralized....and I'm not so sure we CAN survive
long in such a state.
Hubris and deception aside, what other options do we have...have we had? I
can't blame the church for the people there were trying with all they could
muster at any given time to find truth...in their own way; the sincere ones
anyway...and most were. Theirs was a spiritual truth based upon a certain
state of BEing.
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 24, 2008 05:40
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:27 -0400, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>news:8ti2b4lph82peru4o7lim8f9hol0um5r0h@4ax.com...>> Hubris, and lots of really destructive, anachronistic models of what it is
>> and means...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Aug 24, 2008 06:25
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:35:07 -0700, C3 wrote:
> Why else have we halted
> space travel so much since putting a man on the moon?
Vision Deficit Syndrome influenced by an outdated economic.
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Author: ShrikebackShrikeback Date: Aug 24, 2008 11:37
On Aug 24, 2:35 am, C3 aol.com> wrote:> Sometimes I wonder if the Catholic Church (of whom I'm a member) wants
> us to wait before exploring space travel. Why else have we halted
> space travel so much since putting a man on the moon?
Are you saying that JFK sent us to the moon
because the Pope wanted him to?
> Any scientist
> who is informed knows that we have the technology to at least send a
> mission to Mars, we lack only the funding and support of the
> citizens. We wouldn't even have current cell phone technology if it
> weren't for the space programs. There is so much to gain by exploring
> space travel, and perhaps nothing to lose.
A lot of energy needs to be expended. The problem
is public support, though, not the Catholic Church.
If the Catholic Church wanted to go to Mars, they
could tap some actual Catholic country, such as, say
Mexico to fund the trip.
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Author: ShrikebackShrikeback Date: Aug 24, 2008 11:40
On Aug 24, 5:40 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:27 -0400, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
>>news:8ti2b4lph82peru4o7lim8f9hol0um5r0h@4ax.com...>>> Hubris, and lots of really destructive, anachronistic models of what it is
>>> and means to be human and humans,
>>> Also, genetically we still live in caves as just more complex yeast cells.
>
>>You can't really blame us. We all just woke up here. There is nothing to
>>answer our questions for us directly, so we are shackled to waving wildly
>>about in the darkness trying to make some sense of all this. Science has
>>made inroads but leaves us demoralized....and I'm not so sure we CAN survive
>>long in such a state.
>
>>Hubris and deception aside, what other options do we have...have we had? I
>>can't blame the church for the people there were trying with all they could
>>muster at any given time to find truth...in their own way; the sincere ones
>>anyway...and most were. Theirs was a spiritual truth based upon a certain
>>state of BEing. ...
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Aug 24, 2008 12:22
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:40:10 -0700 (PDT), Shrikeback@ gmail.com wrote:
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>I think your AI "singularity (or, rather, Kurzweil's) is just a pipe
>dream. Where are my flying cars? I recall back in the day,
>there were predictions that we'd have intelligent machines
>by the present day. We still don't even know what conciousness
>is in an algorithmic sense, or whether it is expressible as
>algorithms. I doubt that it is. Computers will probably just
>continue to be tools, just because there is an intractable
>problem here. And why anyone would want it any other way
>is beyond me.
We could certainly fail in the whole thing, whatever the measure.
Nothing guaranteeing success, again, whatever the measure.
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