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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 15, 2008 21:49

On Mar 15, 12:07 pm, "curmudgeon" bresnan.net> wrote:
> We invite our congregation to come inside and sit on seventeenth-century
> chairs, which are called pews, and sing eighteen-century songs which we call
> hymns, and listen to a nineteenth-century musical instrument we call a pipe
> organ.
> Yet we still wonder why our congregation thinks we are so out of date, this
> is the 21st century, 3rd millennia after all.

Argument From Age (Wisdom of the Ancients): snobbery that very old (or
very young) arguments are superior. This is a variation of the Genetic
Fallacy, but has the psychological appeal of seniority and tradition
(or innovation).

Products labelled "New! Improved!" are appealing to a belief that
innovation is of value for such products. It's sometimes true.

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#age

Genetic Fallacy (Fallacy of Origins, Fallacy of Virtue): if an
argument or arguer has some particular origin, the argument must be
right (or wrong). The idea is that things from that origin, or that
social class, have virtue or lack virtue. (Being poor or being rich
may be held out as being virtuous.) Therefore, the actual details of
the argument can be overlooked, since correctness can be decided
without any need to listen or think.

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#genetic

This is the opposite of the appeal to tradition;

Appeal to Tradition is a fallacy that occurs when it is assumed that
something is better or correct simply because it is older,
traditional, or "always has been done."

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html

Arguments from "age" and "tradition" as varients of arguments to the
"genetic" could be combined as the general "genetic" was above;

Appeals to Tradition and Age are fallacies that occur when it is
assumed that something is better or worse, correct or incorrect,
simply because they are older/newer, traditional/contemporary, or
"always has been done"/"this is the new way."
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