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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Sep 2, 2008 07:49
Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
to prosecute him, at the time. This is most certainly not the the
case. All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, no longer pose
any social threat.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801299.htm
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Jesuit Father Sabino Maffeo, the Vatican Observatory's vice director
for administration, told CNS that Galileo ran into trouble with the
Holy Office because he did not have proof for his claims.
"Not having proof ... (the Holy Office) was forced to hold on to the
centuries-old concept" that saw Earth as the center of the cosmos, he
said.
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Author: luirotoluiroto Date: Sep 2, 2008 09:44
On Sep 2, 10:49Â am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:> Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
> Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
> to prosecute him, at the time. Â This is most certainly not the the
> case. Â All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
> and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, Â no longer pose
> any social threat.
>
> http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0801299.htm
>
> ...
> Jesuit Father Sabino Maffeo, the Vatican Observatory's vice director
> for administration, told CNS that Galileo ran into trouble with the
> Holy Office because he did not have proof for his claims.
>
> "Not having proof ... (the Holy Office) was forced to hold on to the
> centuries-old concept" that saw Earth as the center of the cosmos, he
> said.
>
> If he had had proof, which did not come for another 100 years with ...
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Author: porky_pig_jrporky_pig_jr Date: Sep 2, 2008 10:16
On Sep 2, 10:49Â am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:> Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
> Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
> to prosecute him, at the time.
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Author: tadchemtadchem Date: Sep 2, 2008 13:57
On Sep 2, 10:49Â am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:> Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
> Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
> to prosecute him, at the time. Â This is most certainly not the the
> case. Â All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
> and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, Â no longer pose
> any social threat.
Power Politics 101:
The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
out of power. Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of
liberalism become a smoke screen of empty (or nearly so) promises -
lip service to preserve loyalty among the masses.
As the most powerful political force in western civilization at that
time, the Church of Rome could ill-afford Galileo's novel ideas,
especially as they directly contradicted established Church Doctrine.
Now that their power has faded, they must appear more liberal to
attract adherents and to avoid losing any more of the "faithful."
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Author: OGOG Date: Sep 2, 2008 14:18
tadchem wrote:
> On Sep 2, 10:49 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>>Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>>to prosecute him, at the time. This is most certainly not the the
>>case. All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>>and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, no longer pose
>>any social threat.
>
>
> Power Politics 101:
>
> The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
> requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
> positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
> out of power. Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of
> liberalism become a smoke screen of empty (or nearly so) promises -
> lip service to preserve loyalty among the masses.
> ...
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Author: zz Date: Sep 2, 2008 14:59
On Sep 2, 5:18Â pm, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:> tadchem wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 10:49 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>>Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>>>Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>>>to prosecute him, at the time. Â This is most certainly not the the
>>>case. Â All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>>>and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, Â no longer pose
>>>any social threat.
>
>> Power Politics 101:
>
>> The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
>> requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
>> positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
>> out of power. Â Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of
>> liberalism become a smoke screen of empty (or nearly so) promises -
>> lip service to preserve loyalty among the masses.
> ...
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Author: OGOG Date: Sep 2, 2008 15:24
z wrote:
> On Sep 2, 5:18 pm, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
> >>tadchem wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 2, 10:49 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:>>
>>>>Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>>>>Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>>>>to prosecute him, at the time. This is most certainly not the the
>>>>case. All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>>>>and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, no longer pose
>>>>any social threat.
>>
>>>Power Politics 101:
>>
>>>The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
>>>requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
>>>positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
>>>out of power. Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of ...
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Author: juliojulio Date: Sep 2, 2008 15:39
On 2 Sep, 23:24, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:> z wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 5:18 pm, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:>>>tadchem wrote:
>>>>On Sep 2, 10:49 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>>>>Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>>>>>Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>>>>>to prosecute him, at the time. Â This is most certainly not the the
>>>>>case. Â All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>>>>>and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, Â no longer pose
>>>>>any social threat.
>
>>>>Power Politics 101:
>
>>>>The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
>>>>requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
>>>>positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
>>>>out of power. Â Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of
>>>>liberalism become a smoke screen of empty (or nearly so) promises - ...
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Author: Corr EdwardsCorr Edwards Date: Sep 2, 2008 17:06
> On 2 Sep, 23:24, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
> >>z wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 2, 5:18 pm, OG gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>tadchem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sep 2, 10:49 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:>>
>>>>>>Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>>>>>>Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>>>>>>to prosecute him, at the time. This is most certainly not the the
>>>>>>case. All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>>>>>>and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, no longer pose
>>>>>>any social threat.
>>
>>>>>Power Politics 101:
>> ...
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Author: mike3mike3 Date: Sep 2, 2008 17:32
On Sep 2, 2:57Â pm, tadchem comcast.net> wrote:> On Sep 2, 10:49Â am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Modern scientists tend to misinterpret the recent rehabilitation of
>> Galileo Galilei as indicating that Church admits that they were wrong
>> to prosecute him, at the time. Â This is most certainly not the the
>> case. Â All the Church is saying is that Galileo was not a bad person,
>> and that his writings, even his satires of the Church, Â no longer pose
>> any social threat.
>
> Power Politics 101:
>
> The first priority of those in power is to preserve that power, which
> requires intolerance of novelty and the development of reactionary
> positions on matters of policy. Acts of liberalism only serve those
> out of power. Â Once power has been acquired, those "acts" of
> liberalism become a smoke screen of empty (or nearly so) promises -
> lip service to preserve loyalty among the masses.
>
> As the most powerful political force in western civilization at that ...
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