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What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 7, 2008 07:41

The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
Qaeda. What would have been the consequences of the American
government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:

Specifically on,

1. The future of the Soviet Union.

2. The future of Eastern Europe.

3. The future of Afghanistan

4. The future of Islamic Extremism.

5. The future of the Islamic world, in general.

Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his
government was progressing in stages towards democratic socialism,
somewhat along the lines of the Swedish model, in accordance with the
principles of Marxist-Leninism. And that Ronald Regan -- or, perhaps,
his ambitious wife Nancy, given Regan's developing dementia -- used
American weapons such as the Stinger Missle to bankrupt the Soviet
Union in Afghanistan for no useful purpose.
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Mar 7, 2008 08:37

On Mar 7, 10:41 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
> Qaeda.  What would have been the consequences of the American
> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
>
> Specifically on,
>
> 1.  The future of the Soviet Union.
>
> 2.  The future of Eastern Europe.
>
> 3.  The future of Afghanistan
>
> 4.  The future of Islamic Extremism.
>
> 5.  The future of the Islamic world, in general.
>
> Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 7, 2008 09:10

On Mar 7, 9:41 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
> Qaeda.  What would have been the consequences of the American
> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
>
> Specifically on,
>
> 1.  The future of the Soviet Union.
>
> 2.  The future of Eastern Europe.
>
> 3.  The future of Afghanistan
>
> 4.  The future of Islamic Extremism.
>
> 5.  The future of the Islamic world, in general.
>
> Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 7, 2008 09:13

The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
Qaeda. What would have been the consequences of the American
government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:

Specifically on,

1. The future of the Soviet Union.

2. The future of Eastern Europe.

3. The future of Afghanistan

4. The future of Islamic Extremism.

5. The future of the Islamic world, in general.

Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his
government was progressing in stages towards democratic socialism,
somewhat along the lines of the Swedish model, in accordance with the
principles of Marxist-Leninism. And that Ronald Regan -- or, perhaps,
his ambitious wife Nancy, given Regan's developing dementia -- used
American weapons such as the Stinger Missle to bankrupt the Soviet
Union in Afghanistan for no useful purpose.
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Sid9
Date: Mar 7, 2008 09:24

"Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d18ff009-3ed5-4373-b151-6ca363b6de33@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 7, 9:41 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
>> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
>> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
>> Qaeda. What would have been the consequences of the American
>> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
>>
>> Specifically on,
>>
>> 1. The future of the Soviet Union.
>>
>> 2. The future of Eastern Europe.
>>
>> 3. The future of Afghanistan
>>
>> 4. The future of Islamic Extremism.
>>
>> 5. The future of the Islamic world, in general. ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Mar 7, 2008 09:25

>
>> As for the Islamic World, what would it have been like without the
>> flood of weapons and training from the CIA resulting from the massive
>> American intervention in the Soviet-Afghan War in the 1980's?  Could
>> Al-Qaeda have developed?
>
> the "what if" scenario is interesting monday morning quarterbacking,
> and the answer you are implying SEEMS true enough
>
> the fear of losing another country to Communism drove U.S. policy
>
> afghanistan subsequently devolved into religious totalitarianism,
> absurdism, craziness, and ugly seeemingly futility today
>
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 7, 2008 09:32

On Mar 7, 11:25 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> As for the Islamic World, what would it have been like without the
>>> flood of weapons and training from the CIA resulting from the massive
>>> American intervention in the Soviet-Afghan War in the 1980's?  Could
>>> Al-Qaeda have developed?
>
>> the "what if" scenario is interesting monday morning quarterbacking,
>> and the answer you are implying SEEMS true enough
>
>> the fear of losing another country to Communism drove U.S. policy
>
>> afghanistan subsequently devolved into religious totalitarianism,
>> absurdism, craziness, and ugly seeemingly futility today
>
> Isn't this really a question about the more general sub-class
> conflict, The Cold War, generally, the period of conflict, tension and
> competition between the United States and the Soviet Union and their
> respective allies from the mid-1940s until the early 1990s, a rivalry
> between two superpowers which was played out in multiple arenas:
> military coalitions; ideology, psychology, and espionage; military, ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: a425couple
Date: Mar 7, 2008 10:24

"Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote
> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
> Qaeda. What would have been the consequences of the American
> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
> Specifically on,
> 1. The future of the Soviet Union.
> 2. The future of Eastern Europe.
> 3. The future of Afghanistan
> 4. The future of Islamic Extremism.
> 5. The future of the Islamic world, in general.
> Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his
> government was progressing in stages towards democratic socialism,
> somewhat along the lines of the Swedish model, in accordance with the
> principles of Marxist-Leninism. And that Ronald Regan -- or, perhaps,
> his ambitious wife Nancy, given Regan's developing dementia -- used
> American weapons such as the Stinger Missle to bankrupt the Soviet
> Union in Afghanistan for no useful purpose.
> ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jack Linthicum
Date: Mar 7, 2008 10:30

On Mar 7, 12:13 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
> Qaeda. What would have been the consequences of the American
> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
>
> Specifically on,
>
> 1. The future of the Soviet Union.
>
> 2. The future of Eastern Europe.
>
> 3. The future of Afghanistan
>
> 4. The future of Islamic Extremism.
>
> 5. The future of the Islamic world, in general.
>
> Mikhael Gorbachev still argues that Soviet Communism, under his ...
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Re: What if: No American support for Afghan Rebels following Soviet Invasion?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 7, 2008 10:37

On Mar 7, 12:30 pm, Jack Linthicum earthlink.net>
wrote:
> On Mar 7, 12:13 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> The American Government, deciding that instability in Afghanistan is
>> more dangerous than Soviet control there, decides against supporting
>> the Afghan Rebels -- the future basis both for the Taliban and for Al-
>> Qaeda.  What would have been the consequences of the American
>> government not supporting the Rebels in Afghanistan, in the 1980's:
>
>>  Specifically on,
>
>> 1.  The future of the Soviet Union.
>
>> 2.  The future of Eastern Europe.
> ...
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