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Author: tata Date: May 6, 2008 08:35
They all desire to use the state/government to control other
people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
the people . . . they can relate.
Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
In "democratic" nations like the US, the control is more subtle . . .
rather than enforce outright dictatorship, control is asserted through
the political process and through the propagandistic media (which are
part of the same underlying control mechanism).
Which is why politics is not only a distraction and a waste of time,
but actually counter-productive since participating in a corrupt
system is by definition an endorsement of that system.
The answers to the questions that politicos and their followers say
that want to address are not "out there" . . . they are "in there".
And what is "out there" is a reflection of what is "in there".
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: May 6, 2008 09:15
On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
> the people . . . they can relate.
>
> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
>
> In "democratic" nations like the US, the control is more subtle . . .
> rather than enforce outright dictatorship, control is asserted through
> the political process and through the propagandistic media (which are
> part of the same underlying control mechanism).
>
> Which is why politics is not only a distraction and a waste of time,
> but actually counter-productive since participating in a corrupt
> system is by definition an endorsement of that system.
>
> The answers to the questions that politicos and their followers say
> that want to address are not "out there" . . . they are "in there". ...
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Author: tata Date: May 6, 2008 11:31
On May 6, 12:15 pm, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:> On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
>> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
>> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
>> the people . . . they can relate.
>
>> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
>> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
>
>> In "democratic" nations like the US, the control is more subtle . . .
>> rather than enforce outright dictatorship, control is asserted through
>> the political process and through the propagandistic media (which are
>> part of the same underlying control mechanism).
>
>> Which is why politics is not only a distraction and a waste of time,
>> but actually counter-productive since participating in a corrupt ...
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Author: SeanSean Date: May 6, 2008 17:15
> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
> the people . . . they can relate.
>
> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
>
> In "democratic" nations like the US, the control is more subtle . . .
> rather than enforce outright dictatorship, control is asserted through
> the political process and through the propagandistic media (which are
> part of the same underlying control mechanism).
>
> Which is why politics is not only a distraction and a waste of time,
> but actually counter-productive since participating in a corrupt
> system is by definition an endorsement of that system.
>
> The answers to the questions that politicos and their followers say ...
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Author: SeanSean Date: May 6, 2008 17:24
> On May 6, 12:15 pm, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:>> On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>>>> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
>>> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
>>> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
>>> the people . . . they can relate.
>>
>>> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
>>> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
>>
>>> In "democratic" nations like the US, the control is more subtle . . .
>>> rather than enforce outright dictatorship, control is asserted through
>>> the political process and through the propagandistic media (which are
>>> part of the same underlying control mechanism).
>> ...
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: May 6, 2008 19:22
On May 6, 8:24 pm, "Sean" bro.org> wrote:>> On May 6, 12:15 pm, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:>>> On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:>
>>>> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
>>>> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
>>>> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
>>>> the people . . . they can relate.
>
>>>> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
>>>> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
> ...
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: May 6, 2008 19:26
On May 6, 8:24 pm, "Sean" bro.org> wrote:>> On May 6, 12:15 pm, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:>>> On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:>
>>>> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
>>>> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
>>>> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
>>>> the people . . . they can relate.
>
>>>> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they
>>>> attempt to control people, but controlling people is still the goal.
> ...
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Author: SeanSean Date: May 7, 2008 02:04
"kevirwin" comcast.net> wrote in message
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On May 6, 8:24 pm, "Sean" bro.org> wrote:>> On May 6, 12:15 pm, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:>>> On May 6, 11:35 am, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:>
>>>> They all desire to use the state/government to control other
>>>> people . . . that is, there is a little dictator inside all of them
>>>> that is trying to get out, which is why politics is so popular among
>>>> the people . . . they can relate.
>
>>>> Of course, states/governments differ in the degree to which they ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: May 7, 2008 09:42
Unless you believe all men are angels, then you'll agree that there
will be gummint, if only by that one bad guy statist.
The only real question is the nature of that gummint.
Now we are right back to being politicos including those trying to
pretend otherwise.
Bret Cahill
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: May 7, 2008 12:05
On May 7, 12:42 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:> Unless you believe all men are angels, then you'll agree that there
> will be gummint, if only by that one bad guy statist.
>
> The only real question is the nature of that gummint.
>
> Now we are right back to being politicos including those trying to
> pretend otherwise.
The argument that because some or all humans are evil,
we need government, contains an obvious contradiction:
the governors are just as likely to be evil as the governed,
if indeed not moreso, as seems to be the case.
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