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Author: HardpanHardpan Date: Feb 14, 2008 03:31
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article3596.html
Western Democracies Have Evolved Into Tyrannical Governments
Feb 04, 2008
By: Joel S. Hirschhorn
Perhaps a global political apocalypse has already arrived.
Activists and dissidents should understand that evil forces and
tyrannical governments have evolved. Just as human knowledge and
science expand, so do the strategies and instruments used by rulers,
elites and plutocrats. By learning from history and using new
technology they have smarter tools of tyranny. The best ones prevent
uprisings, revolutions and political reforms. Rather than violently
destroy rebellious movements, they let them survive as marginalized
and ineffective efforts that divert and sap the energy of
nonconformist and rebellious thinkers. Real revolution remains an
energy-draining dream, as evil forces thrive.
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Author: EdEd Date: Feb 14, 2008 07:54
On Feb 14, 6:31 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:
I am not arguing against any of your main points. I do take issue
with the idea that there was a time in the past when the Western
Democracies were less tyranical or less controlled by the elite. With
the single exception of France for a few years after the Revolution
the elite have ruled evrywhere. Even during the Terror the people of
France were not in control, the wealthy elite had benn deposed but an
elite of intellectuals and orators ruled in their place.
There never was a golden age where the people were enfranchised and in
control.
Ed
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> By: Joel S. Hirschhorn
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> Perhaps a global political apocalypse has already arrived.
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> Activists and dissidents should understand that evil forces and
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Author: thinkerthinker Date: Feb 14, 2008 11:40
"Hardpan" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s4r8r35ebnhmab9us3g4jig18nm6mirglb@4ax.com...> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:54:13 -0800 (PST), Ed earthlink.net>
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>>>On Feb 14, 6:31 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:>>
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>>I am not arguing against any of your main points. I do take issue
>>with the idea that there was a time in the past when the Western
>>Democracies were less tyranical or less controlled by the elite. With
>>the single exception of France for a few years after the Revolution
>>the elite have ruled evrywhere. Even during the Terror the people of
>>France were not in control, the wealthy elite had benn deposed but an
>>elite of intellectuals and orators ruled in their place.
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Author: Michael GordgeMichael Gordge Date: Feb 14, 2008 14:03
On Feb 15, 4:40 am, "thinker" unreal.edu> wrote:> "Hardpan" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:54:13 -0800 (PST), Ed earthlink.net>
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>>>On Feb 14, 6:31 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:>
>>>> Western Democracies Have Evolved Into Tyrannical Governments
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>>>I am not arguing against any of your main points. I do take issue
>>>with the idea that there was a time in the past when the Western
>>>Democracies were less tyranical or less controlled by the elite. With ...
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Feb 14, 2008 16:09
On Feb 14, 11:41 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:> Perhaps so. I do know that the "middle class" has been taking a
> beating for well over three decades and its coming to a head very
> soon. The unions are going bust and jobs are disappearing overseas.
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> There is no doubt whatsoever that the wealthy have always had special
> privileges, advantages and power over the "people" that they lack, not
> having access to so much $$$.
Actually, it's been closer to 5 decades the rich have been fucking
over the middle class (as well as the poor, of course) in this
country. I certainly agree with your point on who controls the
"puppets" that run our country.
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Author: HardpanHardpan Date: Feb 14, 2008 18:54
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:40:27 GMT, "thinker"
unreal.edu> wrote:
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>"Hardpan" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Author: HardpanHardpan Date: Feb 14, 2008 19:11
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:09:26 -0800 (PST), kevirwin
comcast.net> wrote:
>On Feb 14, 11:41 am, Hardpan yahoo.com> wrote:>> Perhaps so. I do know that the "middle class" has been taking a
>> beating for well over three decades and its coming to a head very
>> soon. The unions are going bust and jobs are disappearing overseas.
>>
>> There is no doubt whatsoever that the wealthy have always had special
>> privileges, advantages and power over the "people" that they lack, not
>> having access to so much $$$.
>
>Actually, it's been closer to 5 decades the rich have been fucking
>over the middle class (as well as the poor, of course) in this
>country. I certainly agree with your point on who controls the
>"puppets" that run our country.
>
>So we live under the domination of the "new aristocracy", what can be
>done about it??
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