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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Ed
Date: Sep 10, 2008 19:37

On Sep 10, 6:16 pm, "andy-k" wrote:
> Ed wrote:
>> In all such discussions I am struck by the absence of clarity in the
>> phrase "consciously experiencing".  Other brain functions seem
>> clearer; ideas like "remembering" or "recognizing" or even "deciding"
>> seem relatively amenable to definition.  "Consciously experiencing" on
>> the other hand never seems to get defined.
>
>> What distinguishes "consciously experiencing" from "experiencing"?
>> Suppose I'm concentrating really hard on a math problem while eating a
>> candy.  After I solve the problem I notice the aftertaste of the candy
>> in my mouth.  Did I "consciously experience" the taste of the candy?
>> When?  There's no question that the taste buds were stimulated,
>> signals were sent to the brain etc, I just didn't notice at the time.
>
>> Have you ever had the experience of walking down the street and
>> suddenly stopping and turning back because you realize you saw
>> something that caught your interest but you took several steps before
>> you realized it?  When you saw it did you "consciously experience"
>> it?  You couldn't "consciously experience" it later when you stop, by
>> that time it's not an experience, it's a memory of an experience.  On
>> the other hand it makes a mockery of the word "consciously" to say you
>> "consciously experienced" it when you saw it but you weren't conscious
>> of it at that time.
>
>> Examples like this make me believe that I, at least, do not know what
>> "consciously experiencing" actually involves.

That was great! Thank you for the reference. I have no idea if her
specific take is correct but I'm delighted to find that people are
looking beyond the "usual suspects" in consciousness study.

Her ideas on consciousness need to be melded with new ideas on
identity. If there are processes going on all the time but 'I" am
only conscious of some of them what am "I"? I'm not the "whole
person"; that entity would be aware of all the processes.
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