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We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 21, 2008 07:22

It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
serious inflation. As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict. While
the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging
population and a deteriorating social infrastructure...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: fyfpoon
Date: Mar 21, 2008 07:40

On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
> current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
> financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging
> population and a deteriorating social infrastructure.
>
> The government points to the recession of 1991-1993, saying that it
> "managed" it by cutting interest rates by 1%% at once.  In fact, the
> downturn lasted until 1993 or 1994, and really ended only with the
> coming of a fundamentally new technology: the Internet.  Economists
> regularly exaggerate their understanding and control of the economy,
> arguing for inevitable business cycles as natural, physical laws of ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 21, 2008 07:43

On Mar 21, 9:40 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
>> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
>> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
>> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
>> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
>> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
>> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
>> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
>> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
>> current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
>> financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging
>> population and a deteriorating social infrastructure.
> ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: fyfpoon
Date: Mar 21, 2008 08:00

On Mar 21, 10:43 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 9:40 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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>> On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
>>> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
>>> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
>>> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
>>> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
>>> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
>>> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
>>> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
>>> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
>>> current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
>>> financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 21, 2008 08:07

On Mar 21, 10:00 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 10:43 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Mar 21, 9:40 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
>>>> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
>>>> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
>>>> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
>>>> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
>>>> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
>>>> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
>>>> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
>>>> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: fyfpoon
Date: Mar 21, 2008 08:47

On Mar 21, 11:07 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 10:00 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mar 21, 10:43 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 21, 9:40 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
>>>>> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
>>>>> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
>>>>> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
>>>>> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
>>>>> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
>>>>> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 21, 2008 08:58

On Mar 21, 10:47 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 11:07 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I'm a dual citizen of Canada and the U.S. myself, and something of a
>> connoisseur of the Canadian attitude to life:  Ultra-conformist,
>> permanently colonial, lazy in a nice kind of way, manipulative and
>> controlling.
>
> You forget to mention Canadian bureacracy, which is stifling but has
> been highly glorified as an instrument of social stability.
>
>    You see, believing that they can live off their natural
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>
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>> resources forever, Canadians don't really see any need to ever do
>> anything, and don't like anyone who does want to do anything.  That's ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: tg
Date: Mar 21, 2008 09:05

On Mar 21, 10:22 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
> serious inflation.  As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict.  While
> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
> current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
> financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging
> population and a deteriorating social infrastructure.
>
> The government points to the recession of 1991-1993, saying that it
> "managed" it by cutting interest rates by 1%% at once.  In fact, the
> downturn lasted until 1993 or 1994, and really ended only with the
> coming of a fundamentally new technology: the Internet.  Economists
> regularly exaggerate their understanding and control of the economy,
> arguing for inevitable business cycles as natural, physical laws of ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Sid9
Date: Mar 21, 2008 09:34

"Jerry Kraus" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:820d8259-d6ed-44e2-9a79-068e54585b91@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 21, 9:40 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 21, 10:22 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> It seems reasonably clear to virtually everyone now that, at the very
>>> best, the American economy has lapsed into a period of "Stagflation",
>>> minimal or negative growth combined with the constant threat of
>>> serious inflation. As in the 1970's, this has followed a period of
>>> growth during an extended and unsuccesful military conflict. While
>>> the government and the Fed are frantically patting themselves on the
>>> back for having "handled" the situation with a combination of cash
>>> bailouts, rebates and tax cuts, it seems reasonably clear that these
>>> represent only a drop in the bucket faced with the magnitude of the
>>> current economic problems: simlultaneously collapsing real estate,
>>> financial, service and manufacturing sectors, combined with an aging ...
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Re: We have Stagflation: so now what?         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Mar 21, 2008 09:36

On Mar 21, 10:05 am, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mar 21, 10:22 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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> That's the case from the government end, while the potential private
> entrepreneurs among the middle and upper-middle class are constrained
> by declining real earnings.
>
> Not a good mix. But hey, what would that money go to anyway---clean
> efficient energy use, improved infrastructure, improved health care?
> Who needs that?

Heavens no! Those are certainly, the VERY LAST things we need!!!

Totally inconsistent with the neocon agenda. And a very noble agenda
it is, too. Killing for fun and profit. Doesn't get any better than
that. It's the American Way. Always has been. Always will be.
Jesus Loves Us.
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