On Sep 13, 6:02Â am, T-minus108
gmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 12, 1:45Â pm, Paul
gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Conciousness ceases to exist upon death.
>
> -------- For those who believe this to be true, it will be true.
Not quite. The pain and discomfort will keep increasing. A bit like
ignoring gravity when jumping off a roof.;-)
>
>> When a human is born, it has its own unique consciousness, beliefs,
>> etc.
>
> -------- True.
>
>> therefore, no such thing as past lives.
>
> -------- You can say this, but you don't really know do you? There is
> no way to know this for sure.
The amount of time people try to prove a negative is amazing,
considering Pythagoras mentioned it a few thousand years ago.
Of course it is all part of the course ;-)
>
>> we are no different than plants, insects. born, live, die. that's it.
>
> -------- Actually, we are very different from plants and insects, but
> that's not the point. The point is, you don't know absolutly, and
> niether does Brian, but we are all entitled to our beliefs.
Would that be Brian Weiss.? A good illustration of how different
levels of consciousness exist, comparing yours with Paul.
He believes not, you believe it is not knowable. Again, the reason I
introduced the thread.
What could I say to convince you? Answer. Nothing whatsoever. People
'absorbe' the truth in line with their preparedness.
> And to be honest, I find it completely ignorant when people say they
> know the unknowable, and are sure. Some of the most intelligent and
> spiritual people in the world admit that certain things cannot be
> known by humans (at least not in our physical world), and it's all a
> mystery.
I think you confuse spiritual with religious. Our history shows such
'leaders' used to burn and torture such insightful ones.Same
understandable attitude, just different reactions.
Before I discovered for myself, I asked questions of myself such as
"why should it be any more remarkable to be born many times than
once".
The opening up of awarenss is natural. The discomfort is resisting
your own inner 'rumblings".
BOfL
