"To Rome what belongs to Rome," he said, meaning "let's collaborate
with the oppressor." Is that why Jews don't like him? The Jews have
been put down for not standing with him, but maybe they had their own
reasons. He was a Roman collaborator...

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He didn't exist. Even if he did he would have been a deranged
fuckwit.

Who cares.

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
hotmail.com> wrote:

Who knows. Probably just an everyday normal Joe. But positively
nothing like the apparition conjured up by the Christian witch
doctors.

"It is far better to grasp the Universe
as it really is than to persist in delusion,
however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan

On Mar 19, 2:20 pm, donquijote1954 hotmail.com>
wrote:

So where was Jesus reported to have said that? Do you mean "render
unto Caesar, that which is Caesar"? By which he meant coins are made
by Rome, so pay your taxes.
Which Jews don't like him?

On Mar 19, 3:00 pm, Paul Hands gmail.com> wrote:

It is highly likely that Jesus of Nazareth did exist. What is unlikely
is miracles, rising from the dead etc..
Some of the stuff he is reported to have said was good advice. Shame
that so few Christians want to heed his advice on peaceful co-
existence.

On Mar 19, 3:41 pm, ComandanteBanana yahoo.com>
wrote:

There were no Christians in the "Passion of Christ", Jesus was just an
other rabbi amoungst many others.

Have you ever studied any history?

On Mar 19, 7:20 am, donquijote1954 hotmail.com>
wrote:

I think that the give to rome what is rome's and to god what is god's
argument was a saying of Apostle Paul and not Jesus. Augustine made a
whole philosophy out of it;

Augustine argued that Christianity should be concerned with the
mystical, heavenly City of Jerusalem (the New Jerusalem) rather than
with Earthly politics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_God

ComandanteBanana wrote:

The mythical Jesus was born, lived and died a jew.

JAM

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:

It was Jesus: “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and
unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21)

On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT), donquijote1954
hotmail.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

Almost certainly he did not. First off you would need to show that he
actually lived, nobody has yet been able to find any strong evidence
for that. Second, that phrase sounds far to much like a later addition
used to placate Rome as the church grew. There was a time when the
early church was getting way to much money.

It meant nothing of the sort.