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Author: -Phil Clemence
Date: Apr 21, 2008 17:39

I suppose this has been brought up before.
Now that i think more, i guess it is true .. there is nothing that we do
that is not philosophical.
Our idea of how things is a large percentage of everything we do...
but it seems like a lot of wars have philosophers in the wings ,
whispering the lines.
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 21, 2008 21:23

On Apr 21, 8:39 pm, "-Phil Clemence" loose_ends.com> wrote:
> I suppose this has been brought up before.

war is the most obvious way in which young people get killed for
stupid reasons. but on the scale of things, ironically (of course)
it's probably the way in which the least amount of young people die
for stupid reasons.
> Now that i think more, i guess it is true .. there is nothing that we do
> that is not philosophical.

like taking a shit for example.
> Our idea of how things is a large percentage of everything we do...

no. and thats my final word.
> but it seems like a lot of wars have philosophers in the wings ,
> whispering the lines.
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 22, 2008 00:09

On Apr 21, 5:39 pm, "-Phil Clemence" loose_ends.com> wrote:
> I suppose this has been brought up before.
> Now that i think more, i guess it is true .. there is nothing that we do
> that is not philosophical.
> Our idea of how things is a large percentage of everything we do...
> but it seems like a lot of wars have philosophers in the wings ,
> whispering the lines.

Since the philosophy of war is often treated as a subset of another
branch of philosophy (for example, political philosophy or the
philosophy of law) it would be difficult to define any clear-cut
schools of thought in the same sense that, e.g., Existentialism or
Objectivism can be described as distinct movements. The Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy refers to Carl von Clausewitz is "the only
(so-called) philosopher of war", implying that he is the only (major)
philosophical writer who develops a philosophical system focusing
exclusively on war. However, discernible traditions of thought on war
have developed over time, so that some writers have been able to
distinguish broad categories (if somewhat loosely).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_war
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: chazwin
Date: Apr 22, 2008 00:47

On Apr 22, 1:39 am, "-Phil Clemence" loose_ends.com> wrote:
> I suppose this has been brought up before.
> Now that i think more, i guess it is true .. there is nothing that we do
> that is not philosophical.
> Our idea of how things is a large percentage of everything we do...
> but it seems like a lot of wars have philosophers in the wings ,
> whispering the lines.

"To do is the be"

Jean Paul Sartre

"To be is to do"

Martin Heidegger

"To do be do be do."

Frank Sinatra

Nothing we do is philosophical. But much of what we do can be seen as
a philosophical act or explained, discussed by philosophy.
Do you really see the acts of G Dubya as taking the sligthest notion
of philosophical consequences? Can his act be exlained by the
philosophy of mind?
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: chazwin
Date: Apr 22, 2008 00:50

Why are you doing this again: this copy&paste alternative to thinking
and contributing?
You began to do this less not lang ago and you were far more
interesting.
Why have you started back again? Have you had an intentionalisectomy?

On Apr 22, 8:09 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 21, 5:39 pm, "-Phil Clemence" loose_ends.com> wrote:
>
>> I suppose this has been brought up before.
>> Now that i think...
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 22, 2008 09:31

On Apr 22, 12:50 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why are you doing this again: this copy&paste alternative to thinking
> and contributing?
> You began to do this less not lang ago and you were far more
> interesting.
> Why have you started back again? Have you had an intentionalisectomy?
>

No, actually I am gathering together information for about 30 new
arguments to introduce. Since Gordge has let up I want to get back
into some philosophical criticism of current issues.

Plus I was spending to much time trying to understand how to hack the
iPod iTouch, which has taken considerable time and interst... but I
understand what is happening there, sorry dude.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y1cvJ85Pw08
http://youtube.com/watch?v=di5QypLDaos

http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Our-Democracy-Betraying-Americans/dp/1402207018

http://www.amazon.com/Hostile-Takeover-Corruption-Conquered-Government/dp/030723.../

http://www.amazon.com/Outrage-Immigration-Congressional-Overcharges-Protection/d.../
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: chazwin
Date: Apr 23, 2008 05:21

On 22 Apr, 17:31, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 12:50 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are you doing this again: this copy&paste alternative to thinking
>> and contributing?
>> You began to do this less not lang ago and you were far more
>> interesting.
>> Why have you started back again? Have you had an intentionalisectomy?
>
> No, actually I am gathering together information for about 30 new
> arguments to introduce. Since Gordge has let up I want to get back
> into some philosophical criticism of current issues.
>
> Plus I was spending to much time trying to understand how to hack the
> iPod iTouch, which has taken considerable time and interst... but I
> understand what is happening there, sorry dude.
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Re: War without philosophy?         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Apr 23, 2008 06:39

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:39:21 -0400, -Phil Clemence wrote:
> but it seems like a lot of wars have philosophers in the wings ,
> whispering the lines.

It seems when this usually happens people are needed to 'go off' and
fight. When the war is on your own street, it's another thing altogether.
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