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Author: Anthony BucklandAnthony Buckland Date: Sep 1, 2008 19:09
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> ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice
> presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday
> in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers
> that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
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> Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her
> husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the
> child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by
> the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
>
> Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain
> aides said.
> ...
Here's what women not already committed to Obama need to
consider:
- McCain needed to make himself appealing to the evangelical
Christian right wing of his party.
- That right wing wants politicians, particularly those in high
positions of power, elected who will...
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Author: wilsonwilson Date: Sep 1, 2008 19:57
On Sep 1, 10:09Â pm, "Anthony Buckland"
telus.net> wrote:> Here's what women not already committed to Obama need to
> consider:
> ... [the horrors of a pro-life V.P.]
They need more to consider all the other liberal vs. conservative
issues. The anti-utopia that you warn against is not remotely
likely to come true any time in the foreseeable future. The
country is firmly in the grip of the abortion-on-demand interest,
and dislodging it would take far more than the election of a
pro-life V.P., or her ascension to the presidency.
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Author: DavejDavej Date: Sep 1, 2008 20:29
On Sep 1, 9:57 pm, wilson netscape.net> wrote:> On Sep 1, 10:09 pm, "Anthony Buckland"
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> telus.net> wrote:>> Here's what women not already committed to Obama need to
>> consider:
>> ... [the horrors of a pro-life V.P.]
>
> They need more to consider all the other liberal vs. conservative
> issues. The anti-utopia that you warn against is not remotely
> likely to come true any time in the foreseeable future. The
> country is firmly in the grip of the abortion-on-demand interest,
> and dislodging it would take far more than the election of a
> pro-life V.P., or her ascension to the presidency.
"Firmly" in the grip? The oldest Supreme Court justices are liberals
while the youngest are conservatives. Don't pretend that women deserve
the right to decide on the functioning of their own bodies. Religious
law takes precedence. Every cell is sacred. Every miscarriage deserves
a murder investigation. Jesus says so.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Sep 1, 2008 21:51
On Sep 1, 8:29 pm, Davej hotmail.com> wrote:> On Sep 1, 9:57 pm, wilson netscape.net> wrote:
>>> On Sep 1, 10:09 pm, "Anthony Buckland"
>
>>> Here's what women not already committed to Obama need to
>>> consider:
>>> ... [the horrors of a pro-life V.P.]
>
>> They need more to consider all the other liberal vs. conservative
>> issues. The anti-utopia that you warn against is not remotely
>> likely to come true any time in the foreseeable future. The
>> country is firmly in the grip of the abortion-on-demand interest,
>> and dislodging it would take far more than the election of a
>> pro-life V.P., or her ascension to the presidency.
>
> "Firmly" in the grip? The oldest Supreme Court justices are liberals
> while the youngest are conservatives. Don't pretend that women deserve
> the right to decide on the functioning of their own bodies. Religious ...
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Author: ArtArt Date: Sep 2, 2008 03:38
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:51:26 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist
yahoo.com> wrote:
>Isn't the beef with abortion really that roe v wade was a judicial
>decision by force and fiat, not voted on by representatives of the
>people, and that it would settle better with the people if it were
>decided by the normal channels of government, like each state and/or
>through legislation from and executive or legislator?
Not as I understand the beef by so-called "pro-lifers". Quite the
contrary. They seek an overturn of roe v wade. They don't want
to live in such a "anti-Christian" nation that allows abortion at any
stage of pregnancy.
Certain polititians have advocated that abortion be a "states rights"
issue but I don't think that has any appeal to the radical pro-lifers
who "think" in terms of a "Christian nation" and moral absoluteism.
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Author: DavejDavej Date: Sep 2, 2008 04:51
On Sep 1, 11:51 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:> On Sep 1, 8:29 pm, Davej hotmail.com> wrote:>> On Sep 1, 9:57 pm, wilson netscape.net> wrote:>>> On Sep 1, "Anthony Buckland" <..@ telus.net> wrote: >>>> Here's what women not already committed to Obama need to
>>>> consider:
>>>> ... [the horrors of a pro-life V.P.]
>
>>> They need more to consider all the other liberal vs. conservative
>>> issues. The anti-utopia that you warn against is not remotely
>>> likely to come true any time in the foreseeable future. The
>>> country is firmly in the grip of the abortion-on-demand interest,
>>> and dislodging it would take far more than the election of a
>>> pro-life V.P., or her ascension to the presidency.
>
>> "Firmly" in the grip? The oldest Supreme Court justices are liberals
>> while the youngest are conservatives. Don't pretend that women
>> deserve the right to decide on the functioning of their own bodies.
>> Religious law takes precedence. Every cell is sacred. Every
>> miscarriage deserves a murder investigation. Jesus says so. ...
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Author: NicNic Date: Sep 2, 2008 09:31
On 2 Sep, 03:09, "Anthony Buckland" telus.net>
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>> ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice
>> presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday
>> in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers
>> that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
>
>> Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her
>> husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the
>> child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by
>> the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.
>
>> Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain
>> aides said. ...
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Author: Anthony BucklandAnthony Buckland Date: Sep 2, 2008 10:02
So far, nobody has brought up the bad example Palin
has set by over-reproducing on an overpopulated planet.
To the point of having a child, hardly because of an
unsatisfied desire to have children, at an age which
makes producing a challenged baby more likely.
Is she against birth control too? That could be another
reason why her teenage daughter is pregnant
-- "No,
you don't want to go on the pill, our minister says the
Bible tells us so."
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Author: David JohnstonDavid Johnston Date: Sep 2, 2008 10:36
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:02:44 -0700, "Anthony Buckland"
telus.net> wrote:
>So far, nobody has brought up the bad example Palin
>has set by over-reproducing on an overpopulated planet.
While some parts of the planet may be a bit tight, Alaska isn't one of
those parts.
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Author: tata Date: Sep 2, 2008 10:51
On Sep 2, 1:36Â pm, David Johnston block.net> wrote:> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:02:44 -0700, "Anthony Buckland"
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> telus.net> wrote:>>So far, nobody has brought up the bad example Palin
>>has set by over-reproducing on an overpopulated planet.
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> While some parts of the planet may be a bit tight, Alaska isn't one of
> those parts. Â
Unfortunately, most people do take such a narrow view of the world. In
reality, Alaska is one of the most profound examples of the effects of
overpopulation (and will be in the near future).
Most people, particularly in places like Alaska, just aren't able to
make the connection because they view the natural world strictly as
resources to be exploited for man's purposes, rather than as the
center of a delicate system of which we humans are only a participant,
not its master.
Most people think only near term and see only what is in front of
them, ignoring the bigger picture.
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