meathead wrote:
> "Immortalist"
yahoo.com> wrote in message>>
>> Given that brain size correlates to dietary quality (nutritional and
>> caloric density of the diet) and omnivores have a wide-ranging diet,
>> this group of animals is generally an intelligent one. The history of
>> human evolution shows that supplementing our diet with meat allowed the
>> development of substantially larger brains, a process that consumes
>> large amounts of energy and nutrients. [2]. Other omnivorous animals
>> with whom humans interact-raccoons, bears and even crows-often show
>> remarkable intelligence in their food gathering behaviour.
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> Yah, thats eggxactly it. them critters is neerly smart as we hewmans,
> thats PROOVES that we hewmans is smart beecause we is omnivars like they is.
> it's so oblivious! them scientistis thats sez that that generic revolutions
> stuffs has enything too doo with what mades hour brayns big and smarts is
> reel dum! like the bears and rackoons critters, it's the meets in our diets
> that does it, dumbies! THAT'S whys we is smarts like them! I eat lots uf
> meets and it maykes me reel, REEL smarts! (s'not lyke those dum, dum
> vegtablarians!).
>
If that were true, wouldn't it contradict the observations of squirrels
and how they evolved a greater capacity for memory of particular
locations than humans, and theys only eat nutz? Your theory would say
that veggie squirrels cannot be intelligent.
"These squirrels are not putting any flag there, they are not smelling
the nuts, they are really remembering the exact location of their
nuts," said neuroscience researcher Pierre Lavenex. "They use
information from the environment, such as the relative position of
trees and buildings, and they triangulate, relying on the angles and
distances between these distant landmarks and their caches."
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/10_17_97a.html
Every autumn a squirrel will hide around 10, 000 nuts. Their survival
throughout the year will depend on their ability to find their hoard.
This ability is dependent on their spatial memory and in that lies the
key to their intelligence.
Dr Lucy Jacobs has been studying the capacity of the squirrel's brain,
"The squirrel has an extraordinary spatial memory. It lives in this
huge three dimensional world, jumps from tree to tree and in addition
it has this amazing foraging behaviour that it buries 10,000 nuts in
the fall and hides each nut in a separate place and then has to find
each nut again."
This amazing memory may be nothing to do with intelligence. The key to
recovering their hoard could be a simple ability to retrace their
steps, like a tourist finding the way back to their hotel in an
unfamiliar city. On the other hand, squirrels may be highly intelligent
and find their way back to their food by building a three dimensional
map of their neighbourhood in their minds. In this case, each nut would
have a place on the map in relation to local landmarks, like trees and
bushes, and the squirrel would be able to find the nut by any number of
routes.
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Library/3932/latest.html
> DOH! that lynk sez:
> "It is still debated on whether or not humans are omnivores or herbivores.
> Some believe humans are omnivores. While others still claim humans are
> herbivores."
>
> DOUGHN'T ever use a refrence that playces sum questyuns on if we hewmans ar
> omnivars. uf corse we ar, and its the meets that mayed us smarts lyke ME!
> my bilt-in meets-o-meter tells me i burnned threw 2 burgurs just thinkkin'
> bout awl thiss! DOH agayn, their gows dinnr!
>
I have varrying degrees of suppots fo those two theories.
>> Omnivorism
>> The key category in the discussion of human diet is omnivores, which
>> are defined as generalized feeders, with neither carnivore nor
>> herbivore specializations for acquiring or processing food, and who are
>> capable of consuming and do consume both animal protein and vegetation.
>> They are basically *opportunistic* feeders (survive by eating what is
>> available) with more generalized anatomical and physiological traits,
>> especially the dentition (teeth). All the available evidence indicates
>> that the natural human diet is omnivorous and would include meat. We
>> are not, however, required to consume animal protein. We have a choice.
>
> No wayte.... earlier up abuve it sayd the meets in our omnivars diets is
> what mayd us smarts (wyth big braynes lyke myne - its mayd me reel smarts!).
> but now it sez we hewmans doughn't need animail prowteen / (meets)?? RONG!
> we kneed hour animail prowteen / (meets) two bee big brayned and reel smarts
> lyke ME! fayce the fakts, yu dum, dum vegtablarians with shrunkken
> braynes!,.
>
I was a vegetarian since 1976 and believed I was designed by evolution
to eat meat. I just felt better, and rolled with it.
> - meathead (AND prowd uf it, and how smarts it maykes me!).
I had a big mac the other day. once in a while i eat anything. To me
its a matter of degree, how much and how often. I am mostly vegetarian
most days and hardly eat meat or dairy products, not even seeds/nuts,
very pure indeed and to concieve, oh. Then when I get dizzy and bones
protrude meat I eat some.
