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Author: awais.nazir.chawais.nazir.ch Date: May 22, 2008 20:57
SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
First Assumption: Suppose that all life on Earth came from a single
celled thing which emerged about 4 billion years ago, on Earth.
That single-cell has to meet the following conditions, skipping any of
the following and life couldn't start:
-Nitrogen/Sulphur/etc atoms need to join in equillibrium and in exact
helix shapek, in a single generation. (nearly impossible).
-That proto-DNA need to have a complete reproductive system, in a
single generation. (nearly impossible).
-That proto-DNA need to have a complete system for DNA repair, in a
single generation. (nearly impossible).
-That proto-DNA need to have a complete food-intake-energy-formation
system, in a single generation. (nearly impossible).
-That proto-DNA need to have cell-wall/cytoplasm system, in a single
generation. (nearly impossible).
Second Assumption: Suppose that that proto-DNA some-how came into
existence, don't say how?
-A reasonable beneficial mutation rate is 1/million.
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Author: DanielSanDanielSan Date: May 22, 2008 21:07
> SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
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> First Assumption: Suppose that all life on Earth came from a single
> celled thing which emerged about 4 billion years ago, on Earth.
You're wrong right here.
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> That single-cell has to meet the following conditions, skipping any of
> the following and life couldn't start:
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> -Nitrogen/Sulphur/etc atoms need to join in equillibrium and in exact
> helix shapek, in a single generation. (nearly impossible).
And here.
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> -That proto-DNA need to have a complete reproductive system, in a
> single generation. (nearly impossible).
And here.
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Author: Pop FlyPop Fly Date: May 22, 2008 21:23
Proof that not all men evolved from apes: this one's made of straw.
On May 22, 11:57 pm, awais.nazir...@ gmail.com wrote: > SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
> RATIONALITY AND SINCERITY MATTERS; NONE ELSE, INCLUDING BIAS.
Correct facts also matter.
Rationality without facts, what does that get you? You'd become a
Doctor of the Roman Catholic Church, like St. Thomas Aquinas.
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Author: raven1raven1 Date: May 22, 2008 22:29
On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:57:35 -0700 (PDT), awais.nazir.ch@ gmail.com
wrote:
>All Major Religions teach: Oneness Of God (yes, hindus believe in ONE
>GOD, but many forms of that god)
Many Hindus would beg to differ with that statement.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 22, 2008 22:50
On May 22, 8:57 pm, awais.nazir...@ gmail.com wrote: > SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
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A teleological argument, or argument from design, is an argument for
the existence of God or a creator based on (perceived_evidence) of
order, purpose, design, or direction—or some combination of these—in
nature.
1. X is too complex, orderly, adaptive,
apparently purposeful, or beautiful to have
occurred randomly or accidentally.
2. Therefore, X must have been created
by a sentient, intelligent, wise, or
purposeful being.
3. God is that sentient, intelligent,
wise, or purposeful being.
4. Therefore, God exists.
Formal objections and counterarguments
Complexity does not imply design
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Author: John SmithJohn Smith Date: May 23, 2008 04:01
> SECULAR EVIDENCE (THAT GOD EXISTS):
Warmed over crap is no better than the original.
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Author: El CheEl Che Date: May 23, 2008 16:25
> Conclusion:
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> - nearly-impossible * nearly-impossible * nearly-impossible * nearly-
> impossible * nearly-impossible * nearly-impossible * nearly-impossible
> = Impossible.
ROTFL
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"Me contó que cuando era presidente del Banco Central había firmado los
billetes con la palabra Che para burlarse, y me dijo que el dinero, fetiche
de mierda, debía ser feo."
Eduardo Galeano - De "Dias y noches de amor y de guerra"
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