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Author: turtoni
Date: May 31, 2008 20:58

"Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal,
weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests
are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in the brutal and
violent nature of man because it's a true picture of him. And any attempt to
create social institutions on a false view of the nature of man is probably
doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick

"There is, of course, a connection between alien- and devil-believers and a
certain variety of deconstructionists. They are people in the thrall of a
serious depression, and, in truth, it is unseemly...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: kevirwin
Date: May 31, 2008 21:26

On May 31, 11:58 pm, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal,
> weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests
> are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in the brutal and
> violent nature of man because it's a true picture of him. And any attempt to
> create social institutions on a false view of the nature of man is probably
> doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick
>
> "There is, of course, a connection between alien- and devil-believers and a
> certain variety of deconstructionists. They are people in the thrall of a
> serious depression, and, in truth, it is unseemly to make fun of them,
> especially since most of us are suffering in varying degrees from the same
> malady. If I knew more about psychology, I might be able to give the
> sickness a name. Instead, I turn to poets - not for a name but for a
> confirmation and a cause. Yeats, for example, gives us a precise description
> of our wayward academics and our overcommitted alienites: The former lack
> all conviction, while the latter are full of passionate intensity. T. S.
> Eliot, you will remember, wrote of the hollow men occupying a wasteland.
> Auden wrote of the age of anxiety. Vachel Lindsay wrote of leaden-eyed
> people who have no gods to serve. Edna St. Vincent Millay, in her book ...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: Immortalist
Date: May 31, 2008 21:39

On May 31, 8:58 pm, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal,
> weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests
> are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in the brutal and
> violent nature of man because it's a true picture of him. And any attempt to
> create social institutions on a false view of the nature of man is probably
> doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick
>
> "There is, of course, a connection between alien- and devil-believers and a
> certain variety of deconstructionists. They are people in the thrall of a
> serious depression, and, in truth, it is unseemly to make fun of them,
> especially since most of us are suffering in varying degrees from the same
> malady. If I knew more about psychology, I might be able to give the
> sickness a name. Instead, I turn to poets - not for a name but for a
> confirmation and a cause. Yeats, for example, gives us a precise description
> of our wayward academics and our overcommitted alienites: The former lack
> all conviction, while the latter are full of passionate intensity. T. S.
> Eliot, you will remember, wrote of the hollow men occupying a wasteland.
> Auden wrote of the age of anxiety. Vachel Lindsay wrote of leaden-eyed
> people who have no gods to serve. Edna St. Vincent Millay, in her book ...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: May 31, 2008 22:28

On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:58:00 -0400, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
>"Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal,
>weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests
>are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: tooly
Date: Jun 1, 2008 12:17

Thank you for giving us what
Stanely Kubrick
Neil Postman
and Edna St. Vincent Millay
Had to say.

Now, to complete the picture, you only have 6,212, 345,123 people to go to
get an accurate assessment of the subject.
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: tooly
Date: Jun 2, 2008 01:32

"tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:vAC0k.2798$%%z2.577@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Thank you for giving us what
> Stanely Kubrick
> Neil Postman
> and Edna St. Vincent Millay
> Had to say.
>
>
> Now, to complete the picture, you only have 6,212, 345,123 people to go to
> get an accurate assessment of the subject.
>
>
>

Last biology book I read, suggested that only 'mutation' was the force of
evolution. Without mutations, life would remain the same and unable to
succinctly mold itself to the environment as it changes.

I mention this for I see an association here...whereupon if 'mutation' could
be related to mental health, Psychology would have no alternative but to see
it as a 'malady' and something to cure. Consciousness...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jun 3, 2008 15:29

On Jun 1, 3:17 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Thank you for giving us what
> Stanely Kubrick
> Neil Postman
> and Edna St. Vincent Millay
> Had to say.
>
> Now, to complete the picture, you only have 6,212, 345,123 people to go to
> get an accurate assessment of the subject.
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jun 3, 2008 18:47

>> "There is, of course, a connection between alien- and devil-believers and a
>> certain variety of deconstructionists. They are people in the thrall of a
>> serious depression, and, in truth, it is unseemly to make fun of them,
>> especially since most of us are suffering in varying degrees from the same
>> malady.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEULZIHru0
>
>
> K e v:
> "Industrial Disease" would have made more sense (IMHO), no???
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: turtoni
Date: Jun 3, 2008 20:14

On Jun 1, 12:39 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 8:58 pm, "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal,
>> weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests
>> are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in the brutal and
>> violent nature of man because it's a true picture of him. And any attempt to
>> create social institutions on a false view of the nature of man is probably
>> doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick
>
>> "There is, of course, a connection between alien- and devil-believers and a
>> certain variety of deconstructionists. They are people in the thrall of a
>> serious depression, and, in truth, it is unseemly to make fun of them,
>> especially since most of us are suffering in varying degrees from the same
>> malady. If I knew more about psychology, I might be able to give the
>> sickness a name. Instead, I turn to poets - not for a name but for a
>> confirmation and a cause. Yeats, for example, gives us a precise description
>> of our wayward academics and our overcommitted alienites: The former lack
>> all conviction, while the latter are full of passionate intensity. T. S.
>> Eliot, you will remember, wrote of the hollow men occupying a wasteland. ...
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Re: Understanding Stories         


Author: tooly
Date: Jun 3, 2008 22:56

"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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On Jun 1, 3:17 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Thank you for giving us what
> Stanely Kubrick
> Neil Postman
> and Edna St. Vincent Millay
> Had to say.
>
> Now, to complete the picture, you only have 6,212, 345,123 people to go to
> get an accurate assessment of the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MhsAD-hPA

III AAAMMMM Nnotttttt a Ki,KKKKKKlone.
III AAAAAMMMM MYYY FFF FAAATHER'S SS SON.
[stamped "made in china" on bottom of 'soul']
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