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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jun 24, 2008 16:32
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe
The fate of the universe is determined by the density of the universe.
The preponderance of evidence to date, based on measurements of the
rate of expansion and the mass density, favors a universe that will
not collapse.
The Big Freeze is a scenario under which continued expansion results
in a universe that is too cold to sustain life. It could, in the
absence of dark energy, occur only under a flat or hyperbolic
geometry, because such geometries then are a necessary condition for a
universe that expands forever. With a positive cosmological constant,
it could also occur in a closed universe. A related scenario is Heat
Death, which states that the universe goes to a state of maximum
entropy in which everything is evenly distributed, and there are no
gradients — which are needed to sustain information processing, one
form of which is life. The Heat Death scenario is compatible with any
of the three spatial models, but requires that the universe reach an
eventual temperature minimum.
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Jun 24, 2008 16:54
Billy Pilgrim; gee, I read that so long ago...."this ain't so bad" ,
and then he died. (not Billy, the old Jewish man in the freight car)..
Hitchhikers, not **that** long ago, but sorry Mr. Adams, not much
stuck with me..
Maybe I should re-read....
and now for a totally relevant musical interlude (God, I'm on a roll
with these!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqroT1FZ5Y
it is what it is,
K e v
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Author: Sir FrederickSir Frederick Date: Jun 24, 2008 17:05
Whatever the details of the situation might be,
it is curiouser and curiouser as to why there is anything
at all. Insanity can only go so far, but then you are still stuck
with the insanity. The whole situation probably
involves higher dimensions, which only begs the question.
In the here and now the simultaneity of temporaryness and
eternalness is both frustrating and a clue.
This situation is fully unresolved.
(Thank God for the word "situation".)
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Jun 24, 2008 22:22
On Jun 24, 8:05 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:> Whatever the details of the situation might be,
> it is curiouser and curiouser as to why there is anything
> at all. Insanity can only go so far, but then you are still stuck
> with the insanity. The whole situation probably
> involves higher dimensions, which only begs the question.
> In the here and now the simultaneity of temporaryness and
> eternalness is both frustrating and a clue.
> This situation is fully unresolved.
> (Thank God for the word "situation".)
as the historical situations have progressed you might argue that it's
become more mundane. more bland. more meaningless since we have
conquered many of the meaning giving activities of the past.
the problems of today may be ultimately more globally life threatening
and dangerous but they have left people like ourselves in the position
of scratching our heads about what it's ultimately all about because
we have the resource and time that allows us to ponder such
situations.
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Author: C3C3 Date: Jun 25, 2008 00:10
On Jun 24, 4:32 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe
>
> The fate of the universe is determined by the density of the universe.
> The preponderance of evidence to date, based on measurements of the
> rate of expansion and the mass density, favors a universe that will
> not collapse.
>
> The Big Freeze is a scenario under which continued expansion results
> in a universe that is too cold to sustain life. It could, in the
> absence of dark energy, occur only under a flat or hyperbolic
> geometry, because such geometries then are a necessary condition for a
> universe that expands forever. With a positive cosmological constant,
> it could also occur in a closed universe. A related scenario is Heat
> Death, which states that the universe goes to a state of maximum
> entropy in which everything is evenly distributed, and there are no
> gradients — which are needed to sustain information processing, one
> form of which is life. The Heat Death scenario is compatible with any
> of the three spatial models, but requires that the universe reach an
> eventual temperature minimum. ...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jun 25, 2008 05:35
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:22 -0700, kevirwin wrote:
> Hitchhikers,...
> Maybe I should re-read....
Yes, yes!
" "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
"Arthur: You know, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young.
Ford: Why, what did she tell you?
Arthur: I don't know, I didn't listen."
A babble fish is a fish that, when inserted into ones ear, translates all
known languages in the universe:
" "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith,
and without faith I am nothing."
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Author: SolomonWSolomonW Date: Jun 25, 2008 07:02
> Our Universe will meet its end but there are other universes. We
> should explore more how to travel to them.
>
How can there be other universes? By definition, the universe
is everything!
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Author: kevirwinkevirwin Date: Jun 25, 2008 17:06
On Jun 25, 8:35 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:54:22 -0700, kevirwin wrote:
>> Hitchhikers,...
>> Maybe I should re-read....
>
> Yes, yes!
>
> " "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly
> what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
> and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
>
> There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
>
> "Arthur: You know, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon
> airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young.
> Ford: Why, what did she tell you?
> Arthur: I don't know, I didn't listen."
> ...
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