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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Apr 30, 2008 07:59

On Apr 29, 11:38 pm, "Sean" bro.org> wrote:
> gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:e21e1f90-690c-49e7-88a5-007876edf6f8@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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>> On Apr 29, 2:26 pm, "Dr. James West, Ph.D." nobull.com> wrote:
>>> Michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Apr 29, 11:58 am, "Sean" bro.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>news:0ff908be-5aba-406b-83c0-b3db8045fb3a@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
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>>>>>>Better have the person who changes your depends also start reading
>>>>>>these posts because it is apparent that you no longer can.
>
>>>>>>We are fighting over there so we don't have them attack us over there
>>>>>>again. We are not fighting 9/11 we are preventing the next one.
>
>>>>>LOL What's more scary than any potential terrorism, is that you and so
>>>>>many
>>>>>others really believe what you just wrote.
>
>>>>>>Will we be successfully? I hope so. Of course stalinist liberals
>>>>>>like yourself are doing your utmost to make us fail. Almost makes me
>>>>>>wonder what side you are on.
>
>>>>>If you really cared about your nation and it's people, you wouldn't be
>>>>>so
>>>>>damn gullible and ill-informed, and you sure wouldn't be spreading this
>>>>>mindless propaganda based on illusions and spin, imho.
>
>>>>>But that's life on planet earth isn;t it? :-)
>
>>>>>Here's another "trick" question.
>
>>>>>Can you describe the Worldwide Organisational Structure of the Al Queda
>>>>>Terrorist Organisation and how it operates - and point to clear
>>>>>evidence to
>>>>>back up any claims as to it's existence and personell, and connections?
>
>>>>>Furthermore .. how does one go to War against something that isn't
>>>>>really
>>>>>there?
>
>>>>>Here's a clue ... In Vietnam the USA was in a pitched battle to stop
>>>>>the
>>>>>Dominoe Theory from becoming a reality.
>
>>>>>The problem .... it was just a "theory" ... it wasn't really real. How
>>>>>can
>>>>>one win a war against some entity or word or theory that isn't even
>>>>>real?
>
>>>> It is not necessary that I make you stop hating me (hypothetically
>>>> speaking) it is only important that you fear me. The war on
>>>> terrorism will be won when the despots of the world fear the US more
>>>> then they hate us or more then the fear the terrorist active inside of
>>>> their borders. Terrorist organizations can be neutralized (although
>>>> not eliminated) by eliminating those that would fund them and those
>>>> that would allow them to operate without deterrent.
>
>>>> If we get into a mode were we only attempt to attack terrorist who are
>>>> in the act of attacking us we have already lost.
>
>>>> That is unless you have some better method?
>
>>> Yes, son. Eliminate the reasons they want to attack us: our decades-long
>>> attacks on them.
>
>> Oh so it is that simple is it?
>
> YES .................. oh shit YEAH .... it's that simple!!!!!!!!
>
>> How exactly would you do that? Should
>> a simple press conference do the trick or did you have something else
>> in mind?
>
> Humility, and an ability to admit prior mistakes would be a great start ...
> followed by a sincere apology for errors of the past, and asking for
> forgiveness ... and then dealing with these people in the middle east with
> honesty and integrity and good faith.

Wow you really are nuts. Can you name one time in history that a
country has stripped itself of its ability to defend itself and its
interests that has stopped an enemy (who was already attacking it)
from continuing those attacks. Sounds like suicide.
>
> Unlike what has gone on in the past.
>
> Clinton made a great effort with Iran before he left office, and relations
> were improving greatly. Then some dumb moron got up to give a speech and
> labeled Iran as part of an Axis of Evil .... doh, 8 years of positive
> bi-lateral negotiations and fence building down the drain in 3 seconds.
> Great job George! Doh!
>
> Do you know why North Korea pursued nuclear weapons ... because they live in
> fear, paranoid fear that at any time the USA with all it;s might could
> obliterate them off the face of the earth. of course, that is well, an
> irrational fear, no more irrational that believing that terrorists hate
> America's freedoms and want you all dead because you have a democracy and
> aren;t muslim. Totally irrational.
>
> What's rational is what Osama bin laden says, that's rational. maybe
> criminal, but it's damn rational. He saw the buildings get bombed by US
> naval warships in support of Israel ... thousands of innocents, women and
> children killed and maimed, he saw that with his own eyes .... believing in
> karma and a desire for the US to feel the same kind of pain he supported
> 9/11. Sad, but true.
>
> I don;t support him, but nor did I support the US or Israel in lebanon, and
> I sure as hell never supported the invasion of Iraq. Afghanistan YES, no
> problem.
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