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Author: BretCahill
Date: Aug 14, 2008 07:19

A few laymen can get _some_ kind of understanding of thermo. The
anchor of NPR for example, has figured out how to avoid saying stupid
things on the subject.

But if most people try to fake knowledge of thermo, they will out
themselves in a few lines.

Here it's one line:
>>A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
>>"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. The additional weight would be
>>like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. The real
>>problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
>>etc. to be practical for road transportation.
>>I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
>>something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
>>where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.
>>After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.
> Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
> not scale up for long distances

You have any reason for thinking that it wouldn't scale?

Of course not.
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Re: Trying To Fake Thermo         


Author: dgp
Date: Aug 15, 2008 04:47

On Aug 14, 10:19 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
> A few laymen can get _some_ kind of understanding of thermo.  The
> anchor of NPR for example, has figured out how to avoid saying stupid
> things on the subject.
>
> But if most people try to fake knowledge of thermo, they will out
> themselves in a few lines.
>
> Here it's one line:
>
>>>A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
>>>"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. The additional weight would be
>>>like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. The real
>>>problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
>>>etc. to be practical for road transportation.
>>>I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
>>>something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
>>>where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.
>>>After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.
>> Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might ...
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Re: Trying To Fake Thermo         


Author: Charlie Siegrist
Date: Aug 15, 2008 06:16

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:47:41 -0700, dgp wrote:
> This thread reminds me of a comic: http://xkcd.com/451/
>
> I thought it was hilarious, but my wife (not an engineer) didn't get
> it...

Wow, I like that guy's stuff. Have you shown your wife #162?
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Re: Trying To Fake Thermo         


Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Aug 31, 2008 21:54

>> This thread reminds me of a comic:http://xkcd.com/451/
>> I thought it was hilarious, but my wife (not an engineer) didn't get
>> it...
> Wow, I like that guy's stuff. �Have you shown your wife #162?

I'm still trying to back calculate the title of the Harliquin romance
novel that inspired her theory that scaling up adiabatic engine
systems could be a problem.

Bret Cahill
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Re: Trying To Fake Thermo         


Author: Uncle Ben
Date: Sep 1, 2008 04:02

On Sep 1, 12:54 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
>>> This thread reminds me of a comic:http://xkcd.com/451/
>>> I thought it was hilarious, but my wife (not an engineer) didn't get
>>> it...
>> Wow, I like that guy's stuff. Have you shown your wife #162?
>
> I'm still trying to back calculate the title of the Harliquin romance
> novel that inspired her theory that scaling up adiabatic engine
> systems could be a problem.
>
> Bret Cahill

Bret, thanks for the link. I read almost all of them. The later ones
are funnier; some early ones I couldn't get at all even with the
flyover hints.

Uncle Ben
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Re: Trying To Fake Thermo         


Author: mrdarrett
Date: Sep 2, 2008 16:26

On Aug 14, 7:19 am, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
....
>
>>>A couple years ago an Israeli company was working on zinc or magnesium
>>>"fuel" systems for motor vehicles. The additional weight would be
>>>like an additional person in the vehicle -- not a biggie. The real
>>>problem was it would require an infrastructure, governmental action,
>>>etc. to be practical for road transportation.
>>>I posted that it would be easier to prototype the system with
>>>something that never went very far and always returned to a home base
>>>where the oxides could be collected and sent for reprocessing.
>>>After it's demonstrated then it could be pushed for motor vehicles.
>> Problem with prototyping it for short distance runs is that it might
>> not scale up for long distances

...

Zinc or magnesium, how? Magnesium reacts with steam to yield
hydrogen, but now you have to 1) provide water, and 2) heat it to
steam.
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