"turtoni"
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On Aug 4, 6:30 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> "turtoni"
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> On Aug 4, 12:32 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> "turtoni"
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>>> "turtoni"
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>>>> On Aug 2, 9:19 pm, turtoni
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>>>>> On Aug 3, 12:00 am, Immortalist
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>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:54 pm, turtoni
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>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 11:40 pm, Immortalist
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>>>>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:15 pm, turtoni
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>>>>>>>>> Stereotype
>>>>>>>>> Monotype
>>>>>>>>> Blood type
>>>>>>>>> Are you my type?
>>>>>>>>> Minimalism
>>>>>>>>> Abstract expressionism
>>>>>>>>> Postmodernism
>>>>>>>>> Is it?
>
>>>>>>>>> We are the children of concrete and steel
>>>>>>>>> This is the place where the truth is concealed
>>>>>>>>> This is the time when the lie is revealed
>>>>>>>>> Everything is possible, but nothing is real
>
>>>>>>>>> Corporate religion
>>>>>>>>> Televangahypnotism
>>>>>>>>> Suffer till you die
>>>>>>>>> For the sweet-bye-and-bye
>>>>>>>>> Science and technology, the new mythology
>>>>>>>>> Look deep inside
>>>>>>>>> Empty
>
>>>>>>>>> We are the children of concrete and steel
>>>>>>>>> This is the place where the truth is concealed
>>>>>>>>> This is the time when the lie is revealed
>>>>>>>>> Everything is possible, but nothing is real
>
>>>>>>>>> Everything that goes around
>>>>>>>>> Comes around
>
>>>>>>>>> Hypothetical
>>>>>>>>> Theoretical
>>>>>>>>> Circumstantial evidence
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevance
>>>>>>>>> Dont think twice
>>>>>>>>> Just roll the dice
>>>>>>>>> Pay the price
>>>>>>>>> Snake eyes
>
>>>>>>>>> We are the children of concrete and steel
>>>>>>>>> This is the place where the truth is concealed
>>>>>>>>> This is the time when the lie is revealed
>>>>>>>>> Everything is possible, but nothing is real
>
>>>>>>>>> We are the children of concrete and steel
>>>>>>>>> This is the place where your fate has been sealed
>>>>>>>>> This is the time when your life is revealed
>>>>>>>>> Everything is possible, but nothing is real
>
>>>>>>>>> Everything that goes around
>>>>>>>>> Comes around...
>
>>>>>>>> What is the irony? Tooly and the song combined together or
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> position tooly takes set next to the song?
>
>>>>>>> tooly is a metaphorical bastard Jesus born of the roman
>>>>>>> soldier..
>
>>>>>> you mean he is like the son of the roman guard that pierced
>>>>>> christ
>>>>>> with the sword while on the cross [did he get hit by the blood
>>>>>> spray?
>>>>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoLleEKlBwE>
>>>>> No. I mean he is a Wigger.
>
>>>> wigger
>>>> 7046 up, 484 downlove ithate it
>
>>>> A male caucasion, usually born and raised in the suburbs that
>>>> displays
>>>> a strong desire to emulate African American Hip Hop culture and
>>>> style
>>>> through "Bling" fashion and generally accepted "thug life" guiding
>>>> principles.
>
>>>> Often characterized by his car, or "whip": usually an econobox
>>>> modified with at least twice the car's book value in non-power
>>>> producing modifications or an SUV with at least 5500 lbs. of curb
>>>> weight. Traditional trucks can also qualify here, depending on
>>>> locale
>>>> (southern states' percentages are higher). All vehicles are also
>>>> mandated to have at least 19" chrome alloy wheels, regardless of
>>>> make.
>>>> The typical wigger is also characterized by a strong desire to adorn
>>>> gold jewlery (especially heavy gold chains) and athletic warm up
>>>> suits. All equipment and clothing will be paid for by the parents of
>>>> the individual in question, or the parents of said individual's
>>>> "shorty" through the use of said shorty's credit cards.
>
>>>> A general disposition of "hard" will be displayed among other
>>>> wiggers
>>>> and to kids around their neighbohood (usually labelled a
>>>> 'subdivision'
>>>> or 'gated community' due to its mass produced housing develoment
>>>> origins). This disposition will immediately be dropped and replaced
>>>> by
>>>> a more typical "white boy" disposition when in the presence of
>>>> actual
>>>> African Americans ( with exceptions: Those whose origins trace to
>>>> the
>>>> suburbs being the most prominant.).
>>>> Wigger: "Yo kid, you best be watchin' ya step!"
>
>>>> Typical Suburban White Girl: "Didn't you get that Do-rag at Hot
>>>> topic?"
>
>>>> Wigger: "Yeah, well.. you know how we do!"
>>>>>>My tooly Wigger was more based in the struggles of the *original*
>>>>>>"niggers". As if he's feeling the feelings that they had as the
>>>>>>minority with his spirit lashed upon the wheel of science. As in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>Christians and the Romans. With the irony being his distrust of his
>>>>>>own kin. A kind of self hatred.
>
>>> Well, the wigger thingy is way off of course. But I have thought along
>>> the
>>> lines of what you say here. Someone said we pay for the sins of our
>>> fathers...and surely, my suffering is due to the sins of those who
>>> brought
>>> slavery to these shores. I like to think they were NOT my
>>> forebears...but
>>> alas, who knows what skele's exist in our closets? You guys cannot
>>> know
>>> how my heart has been ripped out time and again by seeing some
>>> beautiful
>>> white gal...all them the dreams of my ficticeous Cindy Loo (the
>>> perfect
>>> girl
>>> next door), wrapped in the arms of some hip hopper bebopping down the
>>> street. I have died a thousand times over now.
>
>>> I am the victim. And in some ways, it is my CROSS to bear. It is a
>>> horrible cross to say the least. Imagine...to see the visions of all
>>> you
>>> love...raped before your eyes...day after day after day.
>>>>I'll tell you what i want from this newsgroup: **NOTHING** (fullstop)
>>>>With that being said i obviously enjoy participating.
>>>>You write like you're eighty five years old; How old are you tooly?
>>>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg1iEBWxVeQ>
>> I'm like the elephant that never forgets and I can remember quite
>> succinctly
>> how all this went down. Someone upstairs decided this was all an
>> expedient
>> way to go...least amount of trouble and all, bedamned who it might have
>> been
>> unfair to. To answer your question though, I'm chronologically 57 years
>> old...but in reality, older than Methusela as the saying goes. I believe
>> I
>> was the burnt offering [ouch!] to the gods on this subject of race...and
>> I've paid dearly for the sins of my forefathers, as mentioned. I myself,
>> was innocent, as I was raised to RESPECT all people, all persuasions.
>> But
>> it is also in that innocense of heart that perhaps I can see a great
>> miscarriage being done, not of justice, but of mind itself, where we
>> commit
>> cultural suicide to assuage the burdens of our guilt for generations
>> past.
>
>> It is a GREAT and NOBLE and irresponsible thing we have done...but the
>> ship
>> sinks nonetheless. At the very least, it has sunk for those like me long
>> ago. Oh...but blood still swims through my vein and I remain conscious
>> to
>> see Cindy Loo swoon and writhe in new passions, not of my BEing...but
>> that
>> of the Alien. I could not be more crushed. And so, my cross to
>> bear...that I bleed this river of pain and suffering and push my
>> capacity
>> to
>> somehow find a way out, when there is none. She was my BEing you know.
>>>Ah. 57. Yeah thats a tough one.
>
> Heck...they're all tuff'.
>
>>>I'm thinking you're lazy. We're all lazy.
>
> But I admit, I'm lazy in old world terms...or perhaps better, one of Sir's
> zombies now. Imagine all them wars us guys have fought through time...all
> for 7 minutes of ecstacy that womanhood 'held back' only for the lucky
> coot
> who 'danced' in the proper way. Well, civilization needed to be built I
> guess....one hell of a big nest for her. But now that it's built pretty
> much...what do me and mine get? Kicked out of bed for a bigger dick
> methinks, ha. So, not just lazy...but 'pouting' as well. I say 'pouting'
> because there's really nothing us guys can do if she decides something
> else
> for her sexual supper [that is, as human beings anyway; days of "clubbing"
> vanished as we exited the caves, ha].
>
>>>Considering your position your best bet would be to less romantic
>>>about finding a mate and more calculating.
>>>I would suggest, in your case that you should checkout all the
>>>religious organizations within our area and until you happen upon
>>>women that take your eye and seem appropriate. These places are
>>>meeting points for your cultural makeup with some huge pools of
>>>availability.
>
> You take me too literally perhaps. Actually, I'm in a relationship these
> days...just another bump along life's highway I suppose.
It sounds miserable; At this point i imagine your ego would defend
it's postion.
> But you're right about the romantic.
Yes. You have a "healthy" imagination..
> Any guy in today's world would be highly foolish to
> attach themselves too tightly to any single woman, given how woman's mind
> has now been developed for the last 4 decades or so [empowerment and all
> that]. It's perhaps another thread of discussion, but women being so
> empowered in all arenas now, including politically, the workplace, and she
> always owned the sexual...well, it has created a terrible imbalance
> between
> the sexes, IMHO.
Your *imagination* is obviously controled, even contained by the
stories.
> So you see, even if Cindy Loo came along now, she not only bites the
> apple,
> but sucks the snake for all he's worth, ha [a joke]. But it ain't my
> snake...but mostly the black man's now. I speak upon macro levels of
> course...whose 'sail' gets the wind as a rule [certainly not the white
> guy's].
>
> Ha, if I were a black guy these days, I'd be celebrating inside, knowing
> how
> the white gal has turned upon her own, and pines deeply for my black dick
> as
> a rule [always exceptions to everything of course]. But I wouldn't love
> her for it, but simply take advantage of it...mainly to strike a hot iron
> stake through the white guy's heart. Hell, if she wants to have my black
> babies...all the better for me [if I were a black guy]. Oh, I might feel a
> bit of emotion at first, but after the excitement wears off and she has
> swallowed my manhood a few times, I'd begin to despise her for what she
> has
> done and become.
>
> Ah...but then I'm not a black guy...but one of these puny white guys who
> can't compete with a short dick [if there is a God, he is really a
> prankster]. I'll never forgive Cindy Loo for what she has done...which is
> essentially destroyed me [if not as white guy, then as a 'type' of white
> guy...which was mostly the 'type' that hit the landing beaches first
> seeking
> her favors through things like honor and integrity and bravery...you know,
> the virtues etc...ha; but what a fool I was of course].
>
> (BTW, Cindy Loo is just a colloquial name I've given to the IDEAL
> woman...something that every man carries around in their subconscious in
> some form or fashion. Every 'real' woman carries a bit of Cindy Loo here
> and there...some more than others of course. Also, remember, perception is
> reality, so even if any of this sounds like madness of a deranged mind, it
> remains the reality I experience as my life since it is MY perception. I
> don't think I'm so far off though..but most don't want to see what's
> happening because it would be too painful [speaking to fellow white guys
> of
> course].
>>Many young males are driven to sow the seed into the "best" flowers at
>>all costs.
>>It's "funny" to imagine that _you've_ still got that *typical* long
>>lasting drive.
>>Your nightmares are childs play.. Ask Sir Frederick.
Some points about nightmares.
1)One can never know any life but the one they own
2)People can withstand many things, but not hopelessness [Me and Sir share
this one methinks]
3)At no time in this world have we seen what has taken place with the black
man since the 1950s'.
Migrations to the urban centers with white flight to the suburbs...but even
there not being able to get away. But subliminal rejection by the female of
an entire race....for the prefering of the male of another race...something
the world just hadn't seen. That is a death sentence for the first race.
4) I think of the spider that plants it's eggs in the hapless wasp's belly
while it is still alive, allowing for the larvae to slowly devour from
within...and in alien fashion, to spring forth from it's belly when the time
is right.
5)I equate all we are seeing with the black man in our own culture as much
as this spider and wasp relationship; the black man as an insiduous
devouring from within, waiting for that day to spring forth in full blossom
to...well....take us over. But not with standing armies, or by any visible
force...but by that slow devouring and reclaiming of rotted matter, no
longer our own. Like a regurgitation, black culture slowly HAS done just
that...and now with Obama standing in the wings for a final nail in our
coffin, all hope will be lost.
6)males can withstand a lot of things...impoverishment, pestulence,
desease...even war. But they cannot withstand the loss of the very reason
of their motivation to withstand any of these things...his mate. Upon a
mass level, what we are actually observing is as replete as bug spray bent
upon the erradication of an entire kind. In fact, science uses this very
strategy to kill real bugs in many instances, to alter reproductive habits.
7)People must suffer much in their nightmares of life. We all die for
example. But few of us ever thought we'd see our own extinction. I
extrapolate outward to see where we are headed.
8)What has taken place has been so diabolical that it cannot be of natural
forces. It is simply beyond fathoming. The black man was NOT the better
entity.
9)My last hope can only be that all is leading up to some sort of climax of
some sort; a reason for all reasons...that there may be some superior force
above it all. Faith, at last sight, becomes the last threadbare grasp of
hope itself. As my faith fails [it has not yet, not completely], I sink
into the abyss of hell.
This is my nightmare...very real, very now, very ME. Remember, hell is, in
it's simplest terms, is a place where hope no longer exists. By this term,
all that seems to be taking place now seems designed to give rise to hell in
our midst. If the devil's existence can be recompensed by way of my
enemies 'enmasse' and this insiduousness now devouring what we are, then it
leaves me some grace of a negative proof of sorts...that if evil can exist
upon such levels, then it's opposite must be at least as real.
