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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Jerry Kraus
Date: Apr 5, 2008 14:45

On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Archangel hotmail.com> wrote:
> Tobacco funded Mass. researchers
> Philip Morris defends grants; critics call the results tainted

All professional scientists are worthless whores. They are
professional propagandists, whether working for government or the
private sector. They just come up with plausible arguments for
whatever line they think they're being paid to trumpet. That's their
training. That's how they get a Ph.D. There's a crying need for a
methodology of scientific theorizing, analogous to controlled
experimentation, to control the way scientists develop the framed
contexts and interpretations used to understand controlled
experiments. None currently exists. Any metaphysicians in the House?
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: J Jones
Date: Apr 5, 2008 15:01

Jerry Kraus wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Archangel hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Tobacco funded Mass. researchers
>> Philip Morris defends grants; critics call the results tainted
>
>
> All professional scientists are worthless whores. They are
> professional propagandists, whether working for government or the
> private sector. They just come up with plausible arguments for
> whatever line they think they're being paid to trumpet. That's their
> training. That's how they get a Ph.D. There's a crying need for a
> methodology of scientific theorizing, analogous to controlled
> experimentation, to control the way scientists develop the framed
> contexts and interpretations used to understand controlled
> experiments. None currently exists. Any metaphysicians in the House?
>

People are in awe of scientists. In fact a scientist is a 'awe role'
created to provide awe by vested concerns in society. All societies have
their 'awe' people, which are used to promote goods and interests.
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 5, 2008 15:10

On Apr 5, 2:45 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Archangel hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tobacco funded Mass. researchers
>> Philip Morris defends grants; critics call the results tainted
>
> All professional scientists are worthless whores.  They are
> professional propagandists, whether working for government or the
> private sector.  

You might do better to watch your "quantifiers" and maybe say somethng
like "Most professional scientists are such and such..." That bit
about they are this way because of training, although truthful
sounding, needs more support in order to be an argument worthy of be
called good logic. Good logic may not be one of the redeeming
qualities in some of the groups crossposted to.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/circumstantial-ad-hominem.html
http://www.tektonics.org/guest/fallacies.html#520
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Apr 5, 2008 16:04

On Apr 6, 6:45 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Philip Morris defends grants;
> All professional scientists are worthless whores.

Those funded by the state anyway.

MG
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 5, 2008 16:15

On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 6:45 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Philip Morris defends grants;
>> All professional scientists are worthless whores.
>
> Those funded by the state anyway.

Do you mean all those funded by the state or most, and how does being
funded by the state make a difference?
>
> MG
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Apr 5, 2008 16:29

On Apr 6, 8:15 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Those funded by the state anyway.
>
> Do you mean all those funded by the state or most,

I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
> and how does being
> funded by the state make a difference?

Akin to asking, what's wrong with being funded by the procedes of
theft, Hint; dont ask Paul - ask Peter.

MG
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Ed
Date: Apr 5, 2008 17:25

On Apr 5, 5:45 pm, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Archangel hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tobacco funded Mass. researchers
>> Philip Morris defends grants; critics call the results tainted
>
> All professional scientists are worthless whores.  They are
> professional propagandists, whether working for government or the
> private sector.  They just come up with plausible arguments for
> whatever line they think they're being paid to trumpet.  That's their
> training.  That's how they get a Ph.D.  There's a crying need for a
> methodology of scientific theorizing, analogous to controlled
> experimentation, to control the way scientists develop the framed
> contexts and interpretations used to understand controlled
> experiments.  None currently exists...
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 5, 2008 22:15

On Apr 5, 4:29 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 8:15 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Those funded by the state anyway.
>
>> Do you mean all those funded by the state or most,
>
> I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
>
>> and how does being
>> funded by the state make a difference?
>
> Akin to asking, what's wrong with being funded by the procedes of
> theft, Hint; dont ask Paul - ask Peter.
>
> MG
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Apr 5, 2008 22:28

On Apr 6, 2:15 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> Suppose we decided to make all accomplishment illegal that have been
> made by tax supported science research.

The end does not justify the means, if only you could check that with
6 million now dead Jews.

MG
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Re: Tobacco funded Mass. researchers         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 5, 2008 22:46

On Apr 5, 10:28 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2:15 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Suppose we decided to make all accomplishment illegal that have been
>> made by tax supported science research.
>
> The end does not justify the means, if only you could check that with
> 6 million now dead Jews.
>

That seems true, besides if not for tax supported research we probably
would have figured those technologies out sooner or later. But alot of
the current standard of living in many places has come from tax
dollars.

Subliminal Affluence from America The Wise pg 88

Infrastructure or superstructure
is itself an entitlement
or welfare system.
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