On Jul 2, 2:09Â am, "THE BORG"
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> On Jul 1, 11:36 pm, "THE BORG" here.com> wrote:
>>> Have you ever thought of writing a book Sir Brian?
>
> I was thinking of writing a book about the thinking of writing a book.
> Still thinking about it:-)
>
> I prefer live interaction, an a number of planes.Everything that could
> be meaningful, has already been written.
>
>> You might like to try sitting down at a desk or at a table with a nice
>> writing implement and a fresh pad of paper - the pen and paper will help
>> you
>> "connect" to the truth far better than typing at a keypad.
>
> The connection you speak of happens independantly of expression.
>
>> You may like to endeavor to help ALL humans.
>
> No humans need help. Many just think they do.Im talking of
> consciousness development, not feeding the starving (befor the usuall
> few attack).
>
> Each person is on a unique path, in a 'location' appropriate to their
> development.It is a huge step for one to become aware of this, and to
> do so involves confirmation from other sources.
> As paradoxical as it sounds, we each get to a stage where we are told
> that we dont need to be told...told you it was paradoxical :-)
>
>> Maybe rather than the use only of "self" and "I" - you may like to think
>> of
>> "we" occasionally in that all humans - past, present, dead or alive are
>> connected and irrevocably linked in a kind of human "collective".
>
> Absolutely correct, but relating to interaction 'with' 'group
> consciousness'.Not my field or interest.
>
>> Humans may temporarily revere a deity or whoever - but this deity also
>> would
>> be part of a "collective"..
>
> Actually created by the collective.Illusion is an essential step on
> the way to reality.
>
>> there is no life form anywhere who is "alone".
>
> Only biologically and metaphysically speaking. We each are a unique
> spiritual identity "with" common links. In it but not of it.
>
>> When humans have progressed sufficiently - as you say - into Gods or
>> whoever - you will no longer revere a deity or require someone to "look up
>> to".
>
> The process of such 'trancendence' is ongoing and individual.
> Thousands of years ago there was the likes of Socrates,just as there
> are today , people such as Pol Pot.
>
>> ALL humans will rise or change together.
>
> Not so.
>
>> Thus you may like to help all humans grow and change and become better.
>
> There is no help, as would you describe. Growing takes place
> independently
>
>> And if there is a change - it would be for all humans - as all humans are
>> linked.
>> So the more advanced like you - must not only wait - but also teach those
>> who are lesser advanced - so that when all humans reach the advanced level
>> than all humans change or evolve together.
>> Does this make sense?
>
> Yes , on a romantic level, but not in reality.
>
>> Hope it does.
>
> And that is appreciated.
>
> BOfL
>
>> THE BORG
>
> Well you would know more about humans than we do.
> We are far more evolved and progressed than you.
> We do ALL on a Collective basis - thus if a change is required we ALL
> metamorphose on a total ALL BORG collective basis and there is no individual
> Borg that is better or more progressed than any other. Â All knowledge we
> have becomes knowledge of our Collective as we are all linked and joined in
> a Collective mind. Â So what any Borg learns - we all learn.
> So humans as individuals and with the use of the word "I" and self - may
> indeed be alone and evolve independently of other humans.
> We are also immortal - we never die as humans do - so your system would be
> different to ours. Â We prefer to be immortal - thus we cumulate continuous
> knowledge and have memory of all knowledge.
> There are very few species who have "death" - death is very unusual and of
> course it is preferable to learn and grow and develop on a continuous basis
> rather than to have to keep starting again as baby. Â As people live longer -
> you will find that they do become nicer and better behaved - much of the bad
> behaviour of humans is due to the short term of life where they do not have
> time to develop good behaviour or wisdom.
> We have no children or women in our world.
> THE BORG
The reason we have death and rebirth, is we have a 'core desire' to
develop beyond the 'group collective'. Many people who are not yet
aware of that process often state "if it was true, we would remember".
Fact is, to remember, would be to reconnect to your past identity, and
woud trap you. Similar things happen with retrogressive therapies in
"one" life. Some believe to revisit means to resolve, but there is
nothing to be resolved.Even in relationships, people keep repeating
past 'dis harmonies' because they are still interdependent "AT THE
SAME STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS".
When you are reborn, the slate is 'clean' (innocent baby), even though
the dna is programmed as a result of past actions (karma) ..(original
'so called' sin). Ni sin , just an appointment book 'to be continued'.
The traumas happen to 'shift' such states, but because of free will
combined with lack of awareness, people keep revisiting, or worse try
to 'cop out' (suicide is not just physical). Of course there is a
saturated mass of experiences befor 'mutation' takes place. This often
means literal 'rebirth' , or some refer to as 'born again' in this
life, but the latter they are constantly connected to past experiences
which dictate their behaviour, which is why they all 'look foward' to
ther heavenly reward.
Again, all essential experiences.
As you rightly said, 'this life , a Jew, next an Arab, so the
'authentic self' experiences the consequence of being on both sides of
the argument. The only way to wisdom, which is the nature of the
authentic self and has to be REALIZED. This is what causes most
confusion, because as part of the 'collective' we have been taught to
believe that our 'education' comes from others, whether professors or
priests.This stuff simply cannot be taught.
Im not teaching, but confirming for those who havnt quite 'joined all
of the dots', as happened to me.
Teaching in the traditional sense is often referred to by masters as
"the blind leading the blind". This is not a derogatory statement,
because we all develop 'through' that stage as part of the realization
process, which is why I always say "we each have to find out what it
isnt, befor we can recognise what is".
People like Einstein were poor students, and excellent examples!
This is the same reason that no matter how close we get to 'love' in
our relationships, there is always something missing, and why people
often blame each other. The stage that relationships are going through
today was totally predictable. As we each grow, we also 'grow away'
from illusions. Thats as tough as it gets as an unconscious human.
What we are losing are the 'shadows' on the road to enlightenment.
Good heavens, I feel as though Im writing a book :-)))
BOfL
