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To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Sound of Trumpet
Date: Nov 29, 2007 01:28

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts

What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
Western civilization

cerc ^ | 2007 | THEODORE DALRYMPLE

Posted on 11/28/2007 7:54:23 PM PST by Coleus

The British parliament's first avowedly atheist member, Charles
Bradlaugh, would stride into public meetings in the 1880s, take out
his pocket watch, and challenge God to strike him dead in 60 seconds.
God bided his time, but got Bradlaugh in the end. A slightly later
atheist, Bertrand Russell, was once asked what he would do if it
proved that he was mistaken and if he met his maker in the hereafter.
He would demand to know, Russell replied with all the high-pitched
fervor of his pedantry, why God had not made the evidence of his
existence plainer and more irrefutable. And Jean-Paul Sartre came up
with a memorable line: "God doesn't exist -- the bastard!"

Sartre's wonderful outburst of disappointed rage suggests that it is
not as easy as one might suppose to rid oneself of the notion of God.
(Perhaps this is the time to declare that I am not myself a believer...
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Tiktaalik
Date: Nov 29, 2007 01:34

On Nov 29, 9:28 am, Sound off Muppet hotpop.com>
ranted:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
>
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
> Western civilization

I regret both. Now fuck off and die.

"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
way of a whole human being." (Abraham Lincoln).

Inane imbecility snipped.
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Mark K. Bilbo
Date: Nov 29, 2007 04:40

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:28:58 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret Western
> civilization

Wrong.

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're
told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what
is right."

- Jerry Sturdivant

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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: pjmutnick
Date: Nov 29, 2007 05:10

On Nov 29, 1:28 am, Sound of Trumpet hotpop.com>
wrote:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
>
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
> Western civilization

What you don't see is that neither of them exists. The West is NOT
civilized, and it has been spiritually dead for two thousand years,
except for a brief repreive during the 60's.
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: jcon
Date: Nov 29, 2007 05:54

On Nov 29, 3:28 am, Sound of Trumpet hotpop.com>
wrote:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
>
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
> Western civilization
>

One can say the same thing about war and slavery.

Your point?

-jc
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Hatter
Date: Nov 29, 2007 06:39

On Nov 29, 7:40 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:28:58 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret Western
>> civilization
>
> Wrong.
>
> --
Hey, by the same extention:

To regret slavery is to regret cotton
To regret The Holocaust is to reget life preservers
To regret Nazism is to regret Jets and Highways
To regret Lack of Sufferage is to regret Democracy
To regret massacres of Indians is to regret at least 37 states

Hatter
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Denis Loubet
Date: Nov 29, 2007 08:28

"Sound of Trumpet" hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:8e31597d-0140-4333-b88e-e03808ce0c98@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
> Western civilization

We have Western Civilization **despite** religion.

--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: zinnic
Date: Nov 29, 2007 09:13

On Nov 29, 3:28 am, Sound of Trumpet hotpop.com>
wrote:
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
>
> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
> Western civilization
>
> cerc ^ | 2007 | THEODORE DALRYMPLE
>
> Posted on 11/28/2007 7:54:23 PM PST by Coleus
>

To regret something is not to wish for something else.
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Date: Nov 29, 2007 09:46

Denis Loubet io.com> wrote in message
news:cKKdnUE2KqkiddPanZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@io.com...
>
> "Sound of Trumpet" hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:8e31597d-0140-4333-b88e-e03808ce0c98@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1932066/posts
>
>
>> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
>> Western civilization
>
>
> We have Western Civilization **despite** religion.

Looking at the track record of 'western civilisation'..... there is much to
regret and if the religious dumbasses want to take the 'credit' for that,
well, they are dumbasses......
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Re: To Regret Religion Is To Regret Western Civilization         


Author: Mark K. Bilbo
Date: Nov 29, 2007 15:15

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:39:58 -0800, Hatter wrote:
> On Nov 29, 7:40 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:28:58 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
>>> What the New Atheists Don't See, To regret religion is to regret
>>> Western civilization
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> --
> Hey, by the same extention:
>
> To regret slavery is to regret cotton To regret The Holocaust is to
> reget life preservers To regret Nazism is to regret Jets and Highways To
> regret Lack of Sufferage is to regret Democracy To regret massacres of
> Indians is to regret at least 37 states

I go further. The foundation of Western civilization was the
Enlightenment. A *rebellion* against religion...
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