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Author: DanDan Date: May 16, 2008 12:43
To live in peace…four words that the people of the world have the
courage and the tenacity to achieve.
Within us all, from every nation, from all walks of faith, lives a
dream of peace that was born when man first agonized over taking the
life of another. This hope within us exists as much as our anger and
frustrations that are so prevalent today and it is this hope, this
dream of peace that will transcend humanity from its bickering
factions to a society that works as one for the advancement of the
human race.
Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life. We are
good people with many good qualities. Finding the strength, the
determination to live in peace is a conscious choice that we as
individuals make on a daily basis. To aspire to live in world peace is
humanity finding its strength and determination to make the choices
that promote cooperation and integrity when the tendency of our past
would lead us to violence. World peace is learning from our
differences to see the spirit of life we share.
Today, at this moment, the world can start living in peace. The steps
we take as a human being and as a people must be with the goal of
peace at the forefront of our thoughts and actions. We have only ...
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Author: Jack QuinnJack Quinn Date: May 16, 2008 13:28
Dan wrote:
> Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life.
There's your problem. Until "most" becomes "all", there will be none of
this utopian garbage that you dream of.
Luckily, that will never happen.
Why?
Humanity is defined by - and yields beauty in - its mistakes, its flaws,
and its failures.
Would you read a book where all of the characters lived in harmony, with
no conflict or strife?
Of course not, that would be boring, ugly, and without substance.
Beauty == Corruption
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 16, 2008 16:07
On May 17, 6:28 am, Jack Quinn visualserver.org> wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>> Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life.
>
> There's your problem. Until "most" becomes "all", there will be none of
> this utopian garbage that you dream of.
>
> Luckily, that will never happen.
>
> Why?
>
> Humanity is defined by - and yields beauty in - its mistakes, its flaws,
> and its failures.
>
> Would you read a book where all of the characters lived in harmony, with
> no conflict or strife?
>
> Of course not, that would be boring, ugly, and without substance.
>
> Beauty == Corruption ...
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Author: DanDan Date: May 16, 2008 16:39
On May 16, 1:28 pm, Jack Quinn visualserver.org> wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>> Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life.
>
> There's your problem. Until "most" becomes "all", there will be none of
> this utopian garbage that you dream of.
>
> Luckily, that will never happen.
>
> Why?
>
> Humanity is defined by - and yields beauty in - its mistakes, its flaws,
> and its failures.
>
> Would you read a book where all of the characters lived in harmony, with
> no conflict or strife?
>
> Of course not, that would be boring, ugly, and without substance.
>
> Beauty == Corruption ...
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 16, 2008 19:38
On May 16, 12:43 pm, Dan dsscompany.com> wrote:
> To live in peace…four words that the people of the world have the
> courage and the tenacity to achieve.
> Within us all, from every nation, from all walks of faith, lives a
> dream of peace that was born when man first agonized over taking the
> life of another. This hope within us exists as much as our anger and
> frustrations that are so prevalent today and it is this hope, this
> dream of peace that will transcend humanity from its bickering
> factions to a society that works as one for the advancement of the
> human race.
> Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life. We are
> good people with many good qualities. Finding the strength, the
> determination to live in peace is a conscious choice that we as
> individuals...
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Author: chazwinchazwin Date: May 17, 2008 02:00
There are many ideas that are able to undermine that aim. Most of
them are born of religion. For what reason would a religious person
aim for the goal of peace when this life is nothing more than a
rehearsal for the real thing?
It is the aim of every messianic that the World will end in
destruction. Why wait for the End of Days when conflict in the Middle
East can be accelerated with war?
Faith based religions do not dream of peace but of the eventual
destruction of humankind. For Christians the anti-Christ will be a
peacemaker. Only true Christians enage in conflict.
On May 16, 8:43 pm, Dan dsscompany.com> wrote:
> To live in peace…four words that the people of the world have the
> courage and the tenacity to achieve.
> Within us all, from every nation, from...
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Author: chazwinchazwin Date: May 17, 2008 02:03
When the last tyrrant and king has been strangled by the entrails of
the last priest on the steps of the ruins of the last church then we
shall know liberty and peace.
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: May 17, 2008 03:43
On Fri, 16 May 2008 12:43:56 -0700, Dan wrote:
> To live in peace…four words that the people of the world have the
> courage and the tenacity to achieve.
Your thoughts here are pretty idealistic. Nothing wrong with that but by
being so the question becomes 'well if humans want peace so much why
isn't there peace everywhere and always?'
A lot of answers can be found for this certainly. Answers that even
contradict one another but each one can being sluffed off onto some dark
side of human nature.
On this matter, it may be that looking at human nature independently is
not a good place to look for answers, at least if this 'nature' is
completely separated from human action, or to be more specific, human
systems of action, like a cultural or economic scheme. After all, blaming
all of humans for war is pretty unfair given at any given time most
humans are not at war.
Things get very ugly very fast when your generalized view is translated
into specifics and it is not surprising at all that speaking in such
transcendent universals is much more comfortable.
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: May 17, 2008 08:11
On May 17, 9:39 am, Dan dsscompany.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 1:28 pm, Jack Quinn visualserver.org> wrote:
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>> Dan wrote:
>>> Most of humanity strives to live an honest, well meaning life.
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>> There's your problem. Until "most" becomes "all", there will be none of
>> this utopian garbage that you dream of.
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>> Luckily, that will never happen.
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>> Why?
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>> Humanity is defined by - and yields beauty in - its mistakes, its flaws,
>> and its failures.
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Author: Daniel T.Daniel T. Date: May 17, 2008 08:12
Dan dsscompany.com> wrote:
> Today, at this moment, the world can start living in peace. The steps
> we take as a human being and as a people must be with the goal of
> peace at the forefront of our thoughts and actions. We have only
> ourselves to succeed and only ourselves to blame if we fail.
This is the standard refrain from the haves to the have-nots. "Strive to
live in peace, that is all you can hope for."
Is peace really all that important that I should sacrifice everything
else that I have/am for it?
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