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Author: Sound of TrumpetSound of Trumpet Date: May 22, 2008 20:23
http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2008_03_23_archive.html#4441169739475262356
Friday, March 28, 2008
Time Is Getting Short
I mentioned a couple of years ago the fossil evidence that life
existed at least 3.4 billion years ago--and the presence of an oxygen
atmosphere suggests photosynthesis was already at work (thus implying
life) 3.8 billion years ago. I also mentioned that this creates an
interesting problem for evolutionists--how in the heck did this happen
so quickly?
Richard Talcott, "Earth's troubled adolescence," Astronomy, May 2008,
32-37, has one of those very nice simplified explanations of early
Earth history that Astronomy is good at presenting. The article points
out that the Earth had a catastrophic beginning, with a Mars-size
impact at about 4.52 billion years ago that stripped away the
atmosphere, created the Moon, melted the surface, and generally, would
have ruined your whole day, if you had been on Earth at the time. More
importantly, after 500 million years or so of relative calm:
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Author: asilentskepticasilentskeptic Date: May 22, 2008 20:28
On May 22, 8:23 pm, Sound of Trumpet mailhaven.com>
wrote:> http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/2008_03_23_archive.html#444116973...
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> Friday, March 28, 2008
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> Time Is Getting Short
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> I mentioned a couple of years ago the fossil evidence that life
> existed at least 3.4 billion years ago--and the presence of an oxygen
> atmosphere suggests photosynthesis was already at work (thus implying
> life) 3.8 billion years ago. I also mentioned that this creates an
> interesting problem for evolutionists--how in the heck did this happen
> so quickly?
>
> Richard Talcott, "Earth's troubled adolescence," Astronomy, May 2008,
> 32-37, has one of those very nice simplified explanations of early
> Earth history that Astronomy is good at presenting. The article points
> out that the Earth had a catastrophic beginning, with a Mars-size
> impact at about 4.52 billion years ago that stripped away the ...
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Author: Pink FreudPink Freud Date: May 22, 2008 20:43
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> Those who insist that Intelligent Design is based on religious faith
> need to start asking why they are so confident that their model
> doesn't required a bit of faith to hold onto with data like this!
What's the Intelligent Design model? Can you explain it to me please?
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Author: raven1raven1 Date: May 22, 2008 21:03
On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT), Sound of Trumpet
mailhaven.com> wrote:
>so we're talking about as little as 300 million years and a
>maximum of 500 million years from the end of temperatures that would
>have sterilized the planet, to fossils. That's amazingly quick for a
>blind, random, and necessarily slow process.
This is a joke, right?
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Author: asilentskepticasilentskeptic Date: May 22, 2008 21:06
On May 22, 9:03 pm, raven1 nevermore.com> wrote:> On Thu, 22 May 2008 20:23:16 -0700 (PDT), Sound of Trumpet
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> mailhaven.com> wrote:>>so we're talking about as little as 300 million years and a
>>maximum of 500 million years from the end of temperatures that would
>>have sterilized the planet, to fossils. That's amazingly quick for a
>>blind, random, and necessarily slow process.
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> This is a joke, right?
It sounds more like a huge misunderstanding than it does a joke.
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Author: Pop FlyPop Fly Date: May 22, 2008 21:29
On May 22, 11:28 pm, asilentskeptic gmail.com> wrote:> On May 22, 8:23 pm, Sound of Trumpet mailhaven.com>
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>> Friday, March 28, 2008
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>> Time Is Getting Short
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>> I mentioned a couple of years ago the fossil evidence that life
>> existed at least 3.4 billion years ago--and the presence of an oxygen
>> atmosphere suggests photosynthesis was already at work (thus implying
>> life) 3.8 billion years ago. I also mentioned that this creates an
>> interesting problem for evolutionists--how in the heck did this happen
>> so quickly? ...
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Author: Uncle VicUncle Vic Date: May 22, 2008 23:11
One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet
mailhaven.com> wrote:
> Time Is Getting Short
It must be hard on you fundies, to accept the fact that live evolved over a
few billion years, when you've only got about 6,000 to work with.
Doesn't Revelation state that the Word is not to be changed in any way
without danger of "God" bringing down plagues upon your house, or refusing
you entrance to "Paradise"?
Of course you can't accept reality. Not without admitting that the bible
has to be changed (interpreted, rationalized) in order to make it conform
to known reality. And if you do that, you're done for. What a viscous
circle your pitiful life must be.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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Author: raven1raven1 Date: May 22, 2008 23:15
On Fri, 23 May 2008 06:11:10 GMT, Uncle Vic withheld.com>
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>One fine day in alt.atheism, Sound of Trumpet
> mailhaven.com> wrote:
>>> Time Is Getting Short
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>It must be hard on you fundies, to accept the fact that live evolved over a
>few billion years, when you've only got about 6,000 to work with.
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>Doesn't Revelation state that the Word is not to be changed in any way
>without danger of "God" bringing down plagues upon your house, or refusing
>you entrance to "Paradise"?
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>Of course you can't accept reality. Not without admitting that the bible
>has to be changed (interpreted, rationalized) in order to make it conform
>to known reality. And if you do that, you're done for. What a viscous
>circle your pitiful life must be.
It's a very sticky situation...
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Author: GeneGene Date: May 22, 2008 23:17
> I was once at a lecture where the professor said the sun
would go nova
> in ten billion years.
Possibly you were. I doubt it.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: May 22, 2008 23:37
On May 22, 8:23 pm, Sound of Trumpet mailhaven.com>
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Those [scientists] insisting that Intelligent Design is dogmatic and
based upon faith freely admit that their beliefs in evolution are also
faith based, but a faith in testability, falsifiabilty and scientific
methodology with experimentation. Science can evolve and change but
Western Religion and Intelligent design cannot.
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