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Date: Apr 13, 2008 22:24

From
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=142594&in_page_id=34

"You might think you just decided to read this story on a passing whim - but
your brain actually decided to do it up to ten seconds ago, a new study
claims.

In tests, researchers tracked people's thoughts by using a brain scan called
functional magnetic resonance imaging.

Each volunteer was then asked to view a screen and decide which of two
buttons to press and when to press it.

Neural activity in parts of the brain called the prefrontal and parietal
cortex showed people made decisions long before they carried them out.

Prof John-Dylan Haynes, who lead the research in Leipzig, Germany, said: 'We
found the outcome of a decision can be encoded in brain activity up to ten
seconds before it enters awareness. This delay presumably reflects the
operation of a network of high-level control areas that begin to prepare an
upcoming decision long before it enters awareness.'

He added: 'The impression that we are able to freely choose between
different possible courses of action is fundamental to our mental life.
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: Art
Date: Apr 14, 2008 04:41

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:24:59 GMT, "andy-k" wrote:
>From
>http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=142594&in_page_id=34
>
>"You might think you just decided to read this story on a passing whim - but
>your brain actually decided to do it...
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Date: Apr 14, 2008 05:46

Art wrote:
> I'm having difficulty reconciling the long "up to ten seconds"
> delay with split-second decisions people make when engaged in
> competitive sports and other situations such as near-accidents.

I guess that "up to ten seconds" includes all figures "up to" ten seconds.
Libet's findings showed delays in the hundreds of milliseconds range,
but this study seems to indicate that in some cases the delay can be much
longer.
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: Art
Date: Apr 14, 2008 07:49

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:15 GMT, "andy-k" wrote:
>Art wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the long "up to ten seconds"
>> delay with split-second decisions people make when engaged in
>> competitive sports and other situations such as near-accidents.
>
>I guess that "up to ten seconds" includes all figures "up to" ten seconds.
>Libet's findings showed delays in the hundreds of milliseconds range,
>but this study seems to indicate that in some cases the delay can be much
>longer.

Do you have access to the full report of the Subject article? I'm
interested in the details.

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Date: Apr 14, 2008 07:57

Art wrote:
> Do you have access to the full report of the Subject article?
> I'm interested in the details.

I heard it on a news broadcast, Googled for some key words,
and selected the first article that referenced it. That's all I know.
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Apr 14, 2008 08:07

"Art" zilch.com> wrote in message
news:gsf604d1ivftif771kb6qccp4860ak9n1g@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:24:59 GMT, "andy-k" wrote:
>
>>From
>>http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=142594&in_page_id=34
>>
>>"You might think you just decided to read this story on a passing whim -
>>but
>>your brain actually decided to do it up to ten seconds ago, a new study
>>claims.
>>
>>In tests, researchers tracked people's thoughts by using a brain scan
>>called
>>functional magnetic resonance imaging.
>>
>>Each volunteer was then asked to view a screen and decide which of two
>>buttons to press and when to press it.
>>
>>Neural activity in parts of the brain called the prefrontal and parietal ...
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Apr 14, 2008 08:08

"andy-k" wrote in message
news:rmIMj.44193$h65.22613@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Art wrote:
>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the long "up to ten seconds"
>> delay with split-second decisions people make when engaged in
>> competitive sports and other situations such as near-accidents.
>
> I guess that "up to ten seconds" includes all figures "up to" ten seconds.
> Libet's findings showed delays in the hundreds of milliseconds range,
> but this study seems to indicate that in some cases the delay can be much
> longer.
Regardless of the scale, the research demonstrates that time, in a mind
state , is not as it appears.

BOfL
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: TruthSlave
Date: Apr 14, 2008 08:15

andy-k wrote:
> From
> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=142594&in_page_id=34
>
> "You might think you just decided to read this story on a passing whim - but
> your brain actually decided to do...
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Apr 14, 2008 08:16

"Art" zilch.com> wrote in message
news:bjr6049a5n6uimja7d7elkhunukjmmvuc3@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:46:15 GMT, "andy-k" wrote:
>
>>Art wrote:
>>> I'm having difficulty reconciling the long "up to ten seconds"
>>> delay with split-second decisions people make when engaged in
>>> competitive sports and other situations such as near-accidents.
>>
>>I guess that "up to ten seconds" includes all figures "up to" ten seconds.
>>Libet's findings showed delays in the hundreds of milliseconds range,
>>but this study seems to indicate that in some cases the delay can be much
>>longer.
>
> Do you have access to the full report of the Subject article? I'm
> interested in the details.
>
> Art
> http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Re: Thinking Ahead         


Author: Ed
Date: Apr 14, 2008 08:47

On Apr 14, 1:24 am, "andy-k" wrote:
> Fromhttp://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=142594&in_page...
>
> "You might think you just decided to read this story on a passing whim - but
> your brain actually decided to do it up to ten seconds ago, a new study
> claims.
>
> In tests, researchers tracked people's thoughts by using a brain scan called
> functional magnetic resonance imaging.
>
> Each volunteer was then asked to view a screen and decide which of two
> buttons to press and when to press it.
>
> Neural activity in parts of the brain called the prefrontal and parietal
> cortex showed people made decisions long before they carried them out.
>
> Prof John-Dylan Haynes, who lead the research in Leipzig, Germany, said: 'We
> found the outcome of a decision can be encoded in brain activity up to ten
> seconds before it enters awareness. This delay presumably reflects the
> operation of a network of high-level control areas that begin to prepare an ...
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