Re: Theory: 70,000 Years Ago Near Extinction, Mankind Numbered Only 2,000
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Re: Theory: 70,000 Years Ago Near Extinction, Mankind Numbered Only 2,000         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Shrikeback
Date: Apr 26, 2008 09:44

"Robert Cohen" msn.com> wrote in message
news:e545e91e-94a8-497a-9a73-70cef6b31b1e@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 4:41 am, "Shrikeback" hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Bret Cahill" aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7b7b492f-6a7e-434f-a174-ab7a9fc56900@q1g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> via studies of DNA------> revisions of paradigms = science marches
>> on
>>
>>
>>>> i suppose the apparent global warming and/or drought then was caused
>>>> by unual active volcanoes
>>
>> Volcanos cause global cooling. Severe volcanic events are known
>> to precede ice ages.
>>
>>> Maybe it was political, or rather, lack of politization.
>>> Politicization saves lives.
>>
>> Yeah, because if the stone age had only been a little greener?
>> But what's greener than the stone age, really?
> What about this as explanation of cooling/warming:
> When the natural ordinary changings occur in clinate, they're over
> long (ceturies, millenia, eons, whatever) of time, and
> animal and plant life thus have time to change or adapt

This is not really generally true, although we see it written by
greens a great deal. Here is an interesting article on the NOAA
site about abrupt climate changes.:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/ctl/abrupt.html
> When there is nuclear winter (instantaneous) type of change, then...
> horrors, chaos,
> I'm suggesting volcanos and eathquakes may change climates relatively
> rapidly.

I'm dubious about whether earthquakes, in themselves would cause
much climate change.
> Mankind's pollution is seemingly more comparable to catastrophic
> change rather than slow change
> Therefore, the results of massive natural or manmade catastrophe are
> variable in extremes--hot 'n cold

The issue is that the atmosphere itself is a chaotic system,
with positive and negative feedbacks and is variable in its
behavior regardless as to changes in initial inputs. A chaotic
system is one that is "sensitive to changes in initial conditions."
What this means is that the relationship to the variation in an
input is not proportional to the output. It is a non-linear
feedback system. It is not amenable to predicition by the
creation of software simplifications of the system.

"Software climate models are like Ouija boards."
-Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of
Atmoshperic Science at MIT
> As I vaguely recall, before there was fear of warming, there was fear
> of another ice age, both seemingly oppositesand in my brief 63 years
> of lifetime

To be sure, the "corp-whore" media amplifies the sensational and
hysterical. But that's to the benefit of the green agenda, which is
based on fear.
> Catastrophes may radically change climates, weathers, sunlight
> amounts, winds, gulf streams, rainfalls, snowfalls, and ocean waves.

Actually, the climate feeds back on itself. Note that clouds, which
are fractal and chaotic and completely unmodelable anyway have
in impact on the albedo of the planet. No external catastrophe is
required to change the climate suddenly (see the NOAA article
above) or extremely. As the article says, the causes of abrupt
climate changes remain unknown. All we got is hypotheses.

uncrapyright 2008 RobtCohen, a wannabe member of the american
meteorological socirty
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