> On Aug 20, 2:18 am, Edward Green netzero.com> wrote:
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>> On Aug 16, 6:17 am, Jan Panteltje yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:18:21 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Edward
>>> Green netzero.com> wrote in
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>>>>Joking aside, as I think they said in the article, rat vs. human
>>>>intelligence seems to be a matter of quantity, not quality.  It's
>>>>plausible to think a rat has some experience which vaguely resembles
>>>>ours, as does a dog: free of language, abstract thought, but with some
>>>>emotions.  And what is the experience of a rat brain artificially
>>>>grown in a box?  We don't know, and this could be animal cruelty.

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>>>>I'm not sure I actually believe the article. How is the lump of tissue
>>>>kept alive?  Is it simply suffused with nutrient?

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>>> The article is probably true, there was a preceeding experiment:
>>> rat cells control flight simulator:
>>>  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041022104658.htm

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>> That makes the latest release "first robot controlled by living brain
>> tissue" a bit gimmicky.  Obviously if you can control an electronic
>> simulator with X you can also control something with moving parts with
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>>> Yes it is in some nutricient, and it seems they add chemicals as
>>> 'reward' or 'punishment' to correct action (feedback in the neural net).
>>> Hope I got that one right.

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>> I had wondered about the reward or punishment thing: whole organisms
>> will work for food.  What takes the place of "food" for a blob of
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> Food is composed of nutrients which are chemicals capable of
> interacting to provide energy that sustains a cycle of electrochemical
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