> On Aug 16, 6:17 am, Jan Panteltje yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On a sunny day (Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:18:21 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Edward
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>>>Joking aside, as I think they said in the article, rat vs. human
>>>intelligence seems to be a matter of quantity, not quality.  It's
>>>plausible to think a rat has some experience which vaguely resembles
>>>ours, as does a dog: free of language, abstract thought, but with some
>>>emotions.  And what is the experience of a rat brain artificially
>>>grown in a box?  We don't know, and this could be animal cruelty.

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>>>I'm not sure I actually believe the article. How is the lump of tissue
>>>kept alive?  Is it simply suffused with nutrient?

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>> The article is probably true, there was a preceeding experiment:
>> rat cells control flight simulator:
>>  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041022104658.htm

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> That makes the latest release "first robot controlled by living brain
> tissue" a bit gimmicky.  Obviously if you can control an electronic
> simulator with X you can also control something with moving parts with
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>> Yes it is in some nutricient, and it seems they add chemicals as
>> 'reward' or 'punishment' to correct action (feedback in the neural net).
>> Hope I got that one right.

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> I had wondered about the reward or punishment thing: whole organisms
> will work for food.  What takes the place of "food" for a blob of
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