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Re: The Wisest fool in all of Christendom         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Thom Madura
Date: Jun 5, 2008 13:05

Sean wrote:
> "Thom Madura" optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4847bcde$0$15159$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Sean wrote:
>>> "Thom Madura" optonline.net> wrote in message
>>> news:48468ef5$0$25066$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>> Sean wrote:
>>>>> "Thom Madura" optonline.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:48449905$0$15191$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>>>> bigfletch8@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 1:19 am, Thom Madura optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> bigflet...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 1:51 pm, monkfish wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> curmudgeon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> To quote a favorite prayer of Holiness the Dalai Lama.
>>>>>>>>>>> May I become at all times, both now and forever
>>>>>>>>>>> A protector for those without protection
>>>>>>>>>>> A guide for those who have lost their way
>>>>>>>>>>> A ship for those with oceans to cross
>>>>>>>>>>> A bridge for those with rivers to cross
>>>>>>>>>>> A sanctuary for those in danger
>>>>>>>>>>> A lamp for those without light
>>>>>>>>>>> A place of refuge for those who seek shelter
>>>>>>>>>>> And a servant to all in need
>>>>>>>>>>> *curmudgeon*
>>>>>>>>>>> "The best read illiterate in the country"
>>>>>>>>>> That's a lot of this and that,
>>>>>>>>>> right and wrong, and past and future.
>>>>>>>>>> What happened to here and now,
>>>>>>>>>> and eat when hungry?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> monkfish
>>>>>>>>>> * The followup-to header is set to alt.christnet.theology.
>>>>>>>>>> ** alt.atheism is removed from the groups header.- Hide quoted
>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> The path of all religions follow the same pattern.
>>>>>>>>> BOfL
>>>>>>>> And they all end up the same way - MYTH.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> Like the 'myth' of socialism, capitalism and all other 'isms'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Myths however, are essential platforms from which the individual can
>>>>>>> develop his own identity, as well as a formulas on which different
>>>>>>> stages of group consciousness can exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BOfL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ism don't all fall into the category of myth - because not all isms
>>>>>> are dependent on blind faith and belief rather than reality and truth.
>>>>>> Capitalism is not a myth - and it is not a belief - it is an economic
>>>>>> system.
>>>>> Not so, it's a mythology, a *belief* system .... so entrenched that it
>>>>> appears real and true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, you only believe it works, and because it appears to work
>>>>> according to the myths involved, you and others continue to believe it
>>>>> is real.
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole system of capitalism only works because people *invest* in
>>>>> the belief.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Socialism might be a myth - we won't know until someone tries to
>>>>>> implement is the way it was supposed to be - has only truly happened
>>>>>> in a few communes in Israel and the Netherlands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Myths are not essential platforms for developing identity -
>>>>> Yes they are ..... critically essential, or everyone would go mad being
>>>>> stuck here soon after birth.
>>>>>
>>>> No - they are not.
>>>>
>>>> A person can be raised and do quite well in a truthful world using
>>>> reality as a base. Myth's are nothing more than pleasant diversions from
>>>> the real world - but not needed.
>>> Thom, that too is a *myth* ... ur own myth, but THAT's OK too ....
>>>
>>> cheers :-)
>> Sorry - but one need not believe in the supernatural in order to develop
>> their identity. This is just one more claim of religion that has no basis
>> in reality or fact.
>
> Why are you bringing up religion? let me scroll up and check ....... um,
> yeah, why are bringing "believe in the supernatural" and "religion" into the
> discussion? I am at a loss. :-)
>
>

Look up the word MYTH - and you will see.
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