On Dec 23, 6:35 pm, Rainbowmatrix
bigpond.com.au> wrote:>> WHY יהושע, I.E. JESUS, IS NOT THE JEWISH MESSIAH IF יהוה is the LORD
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>> Many Christians claim that יהוה is the LORD and Elohim, while his son
>> יהושע is the Messiah.
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>> All Jews reject this and rightfully so. If it were true, don't you
>> think there would be at least one passage in the old testament to that
>> effect, saying, oh, by the way, יהוה has a son named יהושע and he will
>> come as the Messiah?
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>> But there is no such passage, not even the hint of such a passage, and
>> so the theory of these “Christians” is rightfully rejected by almost
>> all Jews as unfounded according to the Jewish religion.
>
>> Now, my hypothesis, however distasteful it may be to Jews, is a
>> possibility they cannot altogether deny if they wish to be thought of
>> as rational human beings.
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>> I claim that Moshe did not know the true identity of the LORD, and
>> this is signified by the fact that the LORD would not allow Moshe to
>> see HIS face, according to the account of Moshe's enlightenment
>> experience that is given in Exodus itself.
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>> I claim that the true name of the LORD is יהושע or JHVSA or Jehoshua
>> Moshiach, aka Jesus Christ. I claim that JHVH is the Divine Name of
>> the angel Gabriel, even as I AM THAT I AM = EHYEH ASHER EHYEH = AHJH
>> ASR AHJH is the Divine Name of the angel Michael, who is the angel of
>> the LORD seen by Moshe in the burning bush. When it says that the
>> LORD knew Moshe face to face, it means that HE knew him face to face
>> through HIS angel, namely Michael as I AM THAT I AM. It is from
>> Michael that Moshe received his prophetic utterances, known
>> collectively as the Torah, even as Mohammed received his prophetic
>> utterances, known as the Koran, from the angel Gabriel.
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>> The LORD HIMSELF was very clear that Moshe could not see HIS face,
>> i.e. know who and what HE truly is, and live. That is why the
>> teaching of Jehoshua Moshiach emphasized the willingness to die to see
>> G-D. Even Jesus Himself had to die in order to return to His own
>> rightful estate as the LORD G-D. The angel of the LORD, Michael =
>> Mahavatar Babaji = ABBA = the Heavenly Father of Jehoshua Moshiach,
>> while He was incarnated as Jesus Christ. Hence the statement of
>> Jesus: "Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or
>> else believe me for the very works' sake." (John 14:11)
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>> My conjecture, if true, points to the reconciliation of the three
>> great monotheistic religions. The alternative is endless fighting,
>> for none of the three will relinquish their claims. The Jews suffer
>> more than anyone from the sin of Moshe in fabricating the name of the
>> LORD. The penalty for that sin, multiplied by the ongoing
>> participation of all Jews, was the destruction of the Temple and
>> diaspora, i.e. sangsara, that will last forever, unless the Jews
>> somehow discover the Truth and repent.
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>> As a half Jew myself, I am not just proselytizing or evangelizing. I
>> am simply sharing what seems to work for me in finding a Truth of the
>> Bible that is not monstrous, but is instead both believable and
>> intelligible. Moreover, as a physicist interested in the foundations
>> of quantum theory, I am interested in finding a Truth that will answer
>> our deepest questions about reality. I believe I have found it.
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>> THE SIMPLE ABBREVIATED TRUTH ABOUT G-D
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>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
>> His true identity. You can't identify someone from behind, especially
>> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
>> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH. The entire Torah and all
>> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
>> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as
>> described within the Torah itself. Dogma is only as good as the depth
>> of enlightenment of the one or ones fashioning the dogma.
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>> BTW, Moses did see the angel of the LORD in the burning bush, and it
>> was the LORD through that same angel who knew him face to face. Never,
>> according to the Torah, was there face to face contact between the
>> LORD Himself and Moses. The LORD absolutely forbade that.
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>> SCRIPTURAL PROOF OF MY CONJECTURE
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>> “Mighty God” in Isaiah 9:6 is “El Gibor”. This is not exactly “Mighty
>> God,” but close. “Strong" is more correct (but it is different from
>> strong of “hazak”). Here both El and Gibor are nouns – this is short
>> full spell is “El Hu Gibor.”
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>> Anyway “El Gibor” and “Gabriel” are same thing. They both mean
>> “Strong God.” “Gabriel” is an angel's name in the Bible.
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>> The word “Gibor” in Isaiah 9:6 and the word “Gibor” of Gabriel have
>> exactly the same root, and they are both the same word. The word
>> itself can also be translated as “Man of God.” [End Quote]
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>> So, the very passage used by Christians to prove that Yeshua is the
>> Jewish Messiah, instead proves that Jews and Christians alike worship
>> the Antichrist, the Abomination of Desolation, namely the angel
>> Gabriel in the holy place of the LORD, where he ought not to sit.
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>> Now the Gabriel that responds to the invocations of Jews and
>> Christians alike is NOT the holy angel Gabriel, for he would not
>> imposter the LORD. Rather, it is an astral plane imposter of the
>> angel Gabriel, who is himself a fallen angel of the worst sort.
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>> All of the monstrosities of the old testament, as well as those same
>> monstrosities carried over into the new testament by the
>> misunderstandings of the disciples of Jesus, are the work of this
>> fallen angel imposter of the LORD.
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>> Now, this is not to say that the formula in Isaiah is entirely false.
>> In Judaism the usual designation for the one that is worshipped is
>> “LORD God.” God, or El, aka Eloah, aka Elohim, is the suffix found in
>> the name of each Archangel: Micha-el, Gibor-el, etc. Furthermore, it
>> is well-known that ALLAH comes from AL ILAH, where ILAH is equated to
>> ELOAH.
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>> So, Islam is that religion wherein the angel of the LORD can actually
>> be the LORD, but that is not the case with Judaism, which is a
>> Messianic religion geared toward the advent of Jehoshua Moshiach, the
>> LORD, designated by the letters JHVSA. One can only conclude that the
>> child referred to in Isaiah 9:6 is Mohammad. He is called a child in
>> the same sense that Moshe is sometimes referred to as a child. There
>> may be a reference by implication to Moshiach, yet another child, but
>> the passage literally refers to Mohammad, the messenger of ALLAH
>> through the angel Gibor-el, whose Divine Name is JHVH.
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>> Moshe was confused about this and all subsequent Jewish prophets and
>> rabbinical commentators were also confused. Moshe's confusion began
>> with his enlightenment experience, wherein he saw the LORD in the
>> burning bush, but only HIS back parts could he see. From that limited
>> experience, he could not properly identify the LORD.
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>> HOW THE DELUSION THAT JHVH IS THE LORD BEGAN
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>> I don't see a contradiction between the fact that Eve said she had
>> gotten a man from JHVH and the fact that the Patriarchs did not know
>> the name JHVH. Eve's delusion was that the LORD was JHVH. She got
>> that from the serpent. Moshe ben Adam inherited that delusion from
>> his line of Jewish mothers. What could be more natural. The delusion
>> had gone into remission at the time of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but
>> resurfaced again with Moshe.
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>> Eve's belief that JHVH is the LORD is like an Oedipal complex. Its
>> remission at the time of the Patriarchs is like the period of
>> latency. Its re-emergence at the time of Moshe is like puberty, where
>> the Oedipal complex resurfaces, but this time resolved and integrated
>> into the social aspect of life. The question is whether the
>> integration into social life is adequate or psychotic. That is a
>> matter of personal judgment. I believe that the monstrosities of the
>> old testament tip the balance scale toward the psychotic. It would be
>> far better from the spiritual point of view to just uproot the Oedipal
>> complex altogether and establish a new foundation for the structure of
>> the psyche. That is the idea of a new testament and covenant.
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>> THE SECRET DOCTRINE OF MONOTHEISM UNVEILED
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>> Exodus
>> 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh
>> unto his friend.
>> 33:18 And he said, I beseech thee, show me thy glory.
>> 33:19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I
>> will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious
>> to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show
>> mercy.
>> 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man
>> see me, and live.
>> 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou
>> shalt stand upon a rock:
>> 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I
>> will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand
>> while I pass by:
>> 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back
>> parts: but my face shall not be seen.
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>> Deuteronomy
>> 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses,
>> whom the LORD knew face to face...
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>> Now, how are we to understand this apparent contradiction? It is
>> essential, for the understanding of who and what G-D is depends upon
>> it. On the one hand, the LORD speaks to Moses face to face, and yet
>> Moses cannot see His face at all, but only His backside. Before we
>> make an attempt at an exegesis, we must consider also the following:
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>> Exodus
>> 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out
>> of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned
>> with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
>> 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight,
>> why the bush is not burnt.
>> 3:4 And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto
>> him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said,
>> Here am I.
>> 3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy
>> feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
>> 3:6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham,
>> the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he
>> was afraid to look upon God.
>> 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of
>> Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me
>> unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say
>> unto them?
>> 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt
>> thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
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>> Now, before going futher we must consider one more piece of the
>> puzzle:
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>> Exodus
>> 6:1 Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do
>> to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a
>> strong hand shall he drive them out of his land.
>> 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
>> 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the
>> name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
>> 6:4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them
>> the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were
>> strangers.
>> 6:5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom
>> the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.
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>> Moses only saw the backside of the LORD G-D, which means that he could
>> not really discern His true identity. Moses did see the angel of the
>> LORD, and then it says that God, not G-D, spoke unto Moses and
>> identified Himself as I AM THAT I AM, or AHJH ASR AHJH. From this and
>> the further revelation in Exodus 6:3, Moses and later other Rabbis
>> built up a doctrine to the effect that JHVH was the true name of the
>> LORD G-D. Later, they decided that JHVH was unutterable and should be
>> replaced by the emphatic form of Adonai, which is ADNJ. Meanwhile the
>> name of the LORD known to the Patriarchs was declared to be El
>> Shaddai, or AL SDJ.
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>> Now, here is my conjecture:
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>> The LORD that Moses actually heard speaking from the bush was not
>> JHVH, but rather JHVSA, or Jehoshua. It is easy to see how Moses
>> could have conflated the names, since they are so similar and Moses
>> could not really discern the true identity of the LORD G-D. All the
>> other names are names of various Lords, or Archangels, who are
>> manifestations of the LORD G-D. AHJH ASR AHJH = Michael, the angel of
>> the LORD. JHVH = Gabriel, second in command. ADNJ = Raphael, the
>> third of the angels who appeared to Abraham. AL SDJ = Michael, once
>> again. The LORD spoke to Moses face to face through his angel,
>> Michael, in the name and form of AHJH ASR AHJH. The LORD G-D Himself
>> informed Moses that Moses could not by any means see His face, or know
>> His true identity (at that time, because He did not yet wish to be
>> revealed).
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>> Moshiach = Archangel Michael = angel of the LORD = Krishna = Mahavatar
>> Babaji = Abba = Heavenly Father of Jesus = Master of Jesus while Jesus
>> was incarnate = Servant of Jehoshua, whenever Jesus abides in His true
>> estate as the LORD G-D. The LORD G-D has no body, and hence when He
>> wishes to appear with form, He must either incarnate or appear through
>> His angel or any of the lesser angels. Angels do have form and
>> function – that is their purpose. They are not ephemeral spirits, as
>> some Christians believe.
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>> Mahavatar Babaji as Krishna empowered Brahma to create this universe.
>> Hence the knowledge of the LORD G-D has to do with liberation from
>> this material world.
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>> THE KEYS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
>> ACCORDING TO SAINT PETER
>> (MATTHEW 16:19)
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>> La ilaha illa Al Ilah Muhammadur Rasulullah.
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>> Sri Krishna Chaitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara,
>> Srivasadi, Guru Sadhu Shastra, Gauranga Mayavadi.
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>> Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God (Gibor-El: יהוה), The Everlasting
>> Father (Jor-El), The Prince of Peace (Kal-El). (Isaiah 9:6)
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>> Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus (19:18) (I am the LORD: יהושע, Jehoshua
>> Moshiach, G-D), Numbers, Deuteronomy (6:5).
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>> In addition to realizing Mind, two other things are necessary for the
>> attainment of Buddhahood. The first is the Great Refusal to worship
>> Self or Atma. Self-Realization does not mean worship at the level of
>> Self or Atma. Quite the contrary. The reason is that Self or Atma is
>> implicated in the material creation of Brahma, the Creator. To be
>> Self-satisfied is called Narcissism. One must be dissatisfied with
>> Self and with the entire material creation. That is the First Noble
>> Truth of the Buddha. It is that alone which enables you to go
>> higher.
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>> The second requirement for Buddhahood is that one must refuse to
>> worship themultiplicity of Gods, which are underlings to the LORD, who
>> is G-D. Even “The Mighty God” of Isaiah 9:6, who is יהוה, or JHVH, or
>> Jehovah, must not be worshipped, for He is only the angel named Gibor-
>> El, or Gabriel. Only the true LORD, who is יהושע, or JHVSA, or
>> Jehoshua Moshiach, is to be worshipped. Jehoshua Moshiach is also the
>> hidden G-D, or Geometry of Divinity, which is the sum total of the
>> knowledge of the universe.
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>> THE MOST IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL FIGURE IN THE HISTORY OF PLANET EARTH
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>> Babaji is the most important figure in the spiritual history of planet
>> earth. He was known as Krishna in the East and Archangel Michael, the
>> angel of the LORD, in the West. Moses saw Him in the burning bush,
>> and all that is genuine about the old testament comes from Him. He
>> took the form of Babaji for the Incarnation of Jesus, who actually
>> called Him ABBA, or Aleph Beth Aleph in the Hebrew. He is the I AM
>> THAT I AM, or EHYEH ASHER EHYEH, or AHJH ASR AHJH in Hebrew letters.
>> He was the Heavenly Father of Jesus, while Jesus was incarnated in the
>> flesh.
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>> In Buddhism, He is the Kalachakra deity, and He is well know by all
>> high lamas in Nepal and Tibet. He is Badrinarayan, and His ashram is
>> near Badrinath and has been there since his incarnation in 203 A.D.
>> He is fully enlightened and literally immortal. He is omniscient. He
>> is the bija of Zen enlightenment, the seed of Tara energy that leads
>> to the infinite consciousness of Avalokiteshvara – gate gate paragate
>> parasamgate bodhi svaha. OM KRIYA BABAJI NAMA AUM.
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>> THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE POPE
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>> Pope: He cited Lenin and the “intermediate phase” of dictatorship
>> that Marx saw as necessary in the revolution. “This ‘intermediate
>> phase’ we know all too well, and we also know how it then developed,
>> not ushering in a perfect world, but leaving behind a trail of
>> appalling destruction,” he wrote.
>
>> I am afraid the Pope, who does not entirely have my (Saint Peter’s)
>> blessing, misses the point here. Communism failed because it was
>> brought down by capitalism. The teaching of Jesus is Christ
>> Communism. See Matthew 6:24: Ye cannot serve God and mammon
>> [capital, capitalism].
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>> The two greatest rabbis in modern times were Karl Marx and my Zen
>> teacher, Philip Kapleau, both of whom were Jews. Both Marx and
>> Kapleau were working in close communion with Sananda (the New Age name
>> of Jesus Christ). Sananda returned to earth on June 1, 1961 and
>> inspired the counterculture movement of the 60’s. When He comes
>> again, it will be to make the Revolution, once and for all! P.S. He
>> is coming in the spaceships of the Ashtar Command, which can defeat
>> the entire U.S. military in about 10 seconds.
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>> ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT BARKER IS REALLY A DOG
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>> On Dec 21, 3:32 pm, “Allen L. Barker”
datafilter.com> wrote:>
>> In _Zen Dawn in the West_ Kapleau tells a story which ends with,
>> “There is a sure way to distinguish an authentic master from a bogus
>> one: He will not tolerate in his disciples an interest in or display
>> of siddhis.”
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>> Reply:
>
>> Oh, you deceiver!. These are not Kapleau's words, they are words of
>> someone in a story heard second hand by Kapleau. See. p. 57.
>> Kapleau's words (again on p. 57 of Zen: Dawn in the West):
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>> “Anyone who does zazen seriously will in time develop psychic
>> abilities to one degree or another. The Buddha himself possessed
>> numerous psychic perceptions, including the ability to recall past
>> lifetimes, see into the future, and read others' minds. But never did
>> he encourage his followers to develop psychic powers as a means of
>> enlightenment, or to make a vain display of any they already had.”
>
>> NOTE: BUDDHA HIMSELF [COULD] READ OTHERS’ MINDS!
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>> REMEMBER: I SAID IT WAS KAPLEAU'S INABILITY TO READ MY MIND THAT
>> CONVINCED ME HE WAS NOT THE MASTER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
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>> CONCLUSION: I WAS AND STILL AM LOOKING FOR BUDDHA OR A BUDDHA-LIKE
>> MASTER TO BE MY LORD AND MASTER.
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>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S WRONG? DO YOU THINK KAPLEAU WOULD DISAPPROVE? I
>> DON'T.
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>> MORE QUOTES FROM ROSHI PHILIP KAPLEAU
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>> Questioner: Is there a difference between psychic insights and
>> satori?
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>> Roshi: They have their origin in a common ground – the Mind.
>> Everyone, without exception, [Equality Wisdom] has this Mind as a
>> birthright. But while the enlightened have awakened to it, the
>> ordinary psychic has not. The important difference is in the degree
>> of awareness or knowledge. The psychic is in touch with an area of
>> mind inaccessible to ordinary consciousness; the awakened has seen
>> into Mind itself. Since the fully awakened Mind perceives unlimited
>> dimensions of consciousness, it naturally encompasses psychic
>> perceptions.
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>> Second Questioner: Speaking of Cayce, I have heard that he made a
>> prediction that sometime within the next forty years California will
>> be destroyed by an earthquake or flood. Do you place any stock in
>> such prophecies?
>
>> Roshi: Unless a psychic can give the precise time of a future
>> occurence – that is, pin it down to the exact year and day and hour –
>> I would place little faith in his prediction. This is not to say he
>> is a charlatan, but that whatever powers he possesses are limited.
>
>> Let me continue. Although the psychic is able to contact dimensions
>> inaccessible to the ordinary person, he has no real understanding of
>> the source of his power. Moreover, his “gift” does not effect in him
>> the attrition of ego or transformation of the personality. He is
>> still dominated by the notion of a self opposed to other selves. By
>> contrast, with genuine enlightenment the notion of an ego-I is
>> dispelled and the dualistic distinction of self and not-self is
>> transcended. The consequences of this are enormous. (From Zen: Dawn
>> in the West, p. 55)
>
>> JOB’S ANSWER TO G-D
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>> Job 38:1-7:
>> 38:1: Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
>> 38:2: Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
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>> A follower of Moshe, for Moshe inspired the entire Torah without
>> actually seeing your face or knowing your true name, oh LORD.
>
>> 38:3: Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee,
>> and answer thou me.
>> 38:4: Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
>> Declare, if thou hast understanding.
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>> I was in Netzach and in Tipareth.
>
>> 38:5: Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who
>> hath stretched the line upon it?
>
>> It was thou, oh LORD, who laid the measures thereof, for thou art the
>> Geometry of Divinity, or G-D. Saraswati, thy mother, hath stretched
>> the (international date) line upon it.
>
>> 38:6: Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid
>> the corner stone thereof;
>> 38:7: When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of G-D
>> shouted for joy?
>
>> Upon the four letter PRDS. The corner stone is Pashat, and thy angel,
>> Michael, hath laid it in place, when angels and men communed freely.
>
> So there has always been an inbalance in reason and a definaite
> conflict as to how god only speaks to the chosen PROFITS say well
> MOSES observed a burning bush and IT spoke to him?
> Now the way our mental health system is they would have said it was
> drug induced helusonations and Given him a liquid labotomy and a
> pension?
From:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=261&letter=I&search=isaiah#1
:
In the order of greatness Isaiah is placed immediately after Moses by
the Rabbis; in some respects Isaiah surpasses even Moses, for he
reduced the commandments to six: honesty in dealing; sincerity in
speech; refusal of illicit gain; absence of corruption; aversion for
bloody deeds; contempt for evil (Mak. 24a). Later he reduced the six
to two—justice and charity (ib.). The chief merit of Isaiah's
prophecies is their consoling character, for while Moses said, "Thou
shalt perish in the midst of the nation," Isaiah announced
deliverance. Ezekiel's consoling addresses compared with Isaiah's are
as the utterances of a villager to the speech of a courtier (Ḥag.
14a). Therefore consolation is awaiting him who sees Isaiah in a dream
(Ber. 57b).
[End Quote]
So, you see, here is the problem in a nutshell. The rabbis indeed
departed from Torah and followed Isaiah instead. Isaiah's God is
Gibor-El or Gabriel (see Isaiah 9:6). It is undoubtedly true that
Moshe never wrote down the Torah, but that it was done by later
scribes and rabbis, who also had accepted the God of Isaiah and
rejected the LORD of Moshe. Hence they used the Tetragrammaton, which
is the Divine Name of the angel Gabriel, in place of the true name of
the LORD.
