> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
> His true identity.

> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH.

> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as
> described within the Torah itself. Dogma is only as good as the depth
> of enlightenment of the one or ones fashioning the dogma.

> pjmutn...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
>> His true identity.

>
> There is no need, unless you are a polytheist.
>
> You can't identify someone from behind, especially
>

>> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
>> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH.

>
> Knowing the name is different from knowing the entity. There are many
> names for G-d in the Jewish tradition, but no matter how many letters
> they have they all denote G-d.
>
> The entire Torah and all
>

>> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see ...

> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
> of the LORD

> On Dec 10, 10:15 am, cactus nonespam.com> wrote:

>> pjmutn...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

>>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>>> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
>>> His true identity.

>> There is no need, unless you are a polytheist.
>>
>> You can't identify someone from behind, especially
>>

>>> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
>>> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH.

>> Knowing the name is different from knowing the entity. There are many
>> names for G-d in the Jewish tradition, but no matter how many letters
>> they have they all denote G-d.
>>
>> The entire Torah and all
>>

>>> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
>>> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as ...

> On Dec 10, 11:09 am, pjmutn...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>

>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>> of the LORD

>
> I've always loved the notion that if there is one, all-poweful
> biblical superbeing, that he has an ass. Not sure why he needs one,
> however.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes at dakotacom dot net

> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
> His true identity. You can't identify someone from behind, especially
> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH. The entire Torah and all
> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as
> described within the Torah itself. Dogma is only as good as the depth
> of enlightenment of the one or ones fashioning the dogma.
>
> BTW, Moses did see the angel of the LORD in the...

> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
> His true identity. You can't identify someone from behind...

> sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:abf9520c-e279-463f-89ee-cd3a6a9c7f11@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
>> His true identity. You can't identify someone from behind, especially
>> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
>> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH. The entire Torah and all
>> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
>> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as
>> described within the Torah itself. Dogma is only as good as the depth
>> of enlightenment of the one or ones fashioning the dogma.
>>
>> BTW, Moses did see the angel of the LORD in the burning bush, and it
>> was the LORD through that same angel who knew him face to face.
>> Never, according to the Torah, was there face to face contact between
>> the LORD Himself and Moses. The LORD absolutely forbad that.

>
> You know, if you're in the business of granting the existence of things like
> gods and angels with abilities that are beyond the ken of mortal men, ...

> One fine day in alt.atheism, pjmutnick@sbcglobal.net bloodied us up with
> this:
>

>> The simple abbreviated truth is that Moses could only see the backside
>> of the LORD he saw in the burning bush, and so he could not discern
>> His true identity. You can't identify someone from behind, especially
>> if you don't already know who they are. The true name of the LORD was
>> and is JEHOSHUA, or JHVSA, not JHVH. The entire Torah and all
>> secondary literature is in a sense a great big fraud, and you can see
>> that if you go back to its origin in the actual experience of Moses as
>> described within the Torah itself. Dogma is only as good as the depth
>> of enlightenment of the one or ones fashioning the dogma.
>>
>> BTW, Moses did see the angel of the LORD in the burning bush, and it
>> was the LORD through that same angel who knew him face to face.
>> Never, according to the Torah, was there face to face contact between
>> the LORD Himself and Moses. The LORD absolutely forbad that.
>>

> ...