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The Romans Did It First         


Author: Sir Frederick
Date: May 9, 2008 13:51

http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Issues/2008/DR050708.html#essay
The Daily Reckoning
London, England
Wednesday, May 7, 2008

The Daily Reckoning PRESENTS: No modern government policy is so stupid
that the Romans didn't think of it first. Inspired by his recent trip to
Rome, Bill takes us through Rome's trash pile of history to try to learn
something from it. Read on...

ETERNAL CITY, CHRONIC TROUBLE
by Bill Bonner

A visitor to the Eternal City, even if he has been many times before,
feels his jaw drop and his pulse rise. The city is still a magnificent
ruin...a vast memento mori recalling every absurdity and corruption known
to man. Here we begin ab ovo, as the Romans used to say - with the egg.
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Re: The Romans Did It First         


Author: Don H
Date: May 9, 2008 15:00

"Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Issues/2008/DR050708.html#essay
> The Daily Reckoning
> London, England
> Wednesday, May 7, 2008
>
> The Daily Reckoning PRESENTS: No modern government policy is so stupid
> that the Romans didn't think of it first. Inspired by his recent trip to
> Rome, Bill takes us through Rome's trash pile of history to try to learn
> something from it. Read on...
>
> ETERNAL CITY, CHRONIC TROUBLE
> by Bill Bonner
>
> A visitor to the Eternal City, even if he has been many times before,
> feels his jaw drop and his pulse rise. The city is still a magnificent
> ruin...a vast memento mori recalling every absurdity and corruption known
> to man. Here we begin ab ovo, as the Romans used to say - with the egg.
> ...
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Re: The Romans Did It First         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: May 9, 2008 16:20

On May 10, 8:00 am, "Don H" bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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>>http://www.dailyreckoning.com/Issues/2008/DR050708.html#essay
>> The Daily Reckoning
>> London, England
>> Wednesday, May 7, 2008
>
>> The Daily Reckoning PRESENTS: No modern government policy is so stupid
>> that the Romans didn't think of it first. Inspired by his recent trip to
>> Rome, Bill takes us through Rome's trash pile of history to try to learn
>> something from it. Read on...
>
>> ETERNAL CITY, CHRONIC TROUBLE ...
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Re: The Romans Did It First         


Author: Day Brown
Date: May 9, 2008 21:57

Analysis of aristocratic skeletons shows lead. But most of it came from
the "garum", a fish sauce that sat on every table, its high acid leading
the metal from the lead bottle it was sold in. It was also upscale to
quit using pottery and cook with lead pots.

With the lower classes, the problem was monoculture. They got bread, but
did not get a balanced diet. No trace minerals for maximal mental
development.

Gibbon noted that all the emperors who grew up in Rome, Caligula, Nero,
& Commodus come to mind, were diasters, and all the competent
administrators of the empire, Trajan, Diocletian, Hadrian, Justinian,
grew up on farms out in the boonies. Where they all ate wild foods and
home grown veggies in what we'd call 'organic' soils and thereby
received the trace minerals and micro-nutrient in the plants that
maximized mental development.
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Author: turtoni
Date: May 9, 2008 22:12

"Day Brown" hughes.net> wrote in message
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> Analysis of aristocratic skeletons shows lead. But most of it came from
> the "garum", a fish sauce that sat on every table, its high acid leading
> the metal from the lead bottle it was sold in. It was also upscale to quit
> using pottery and cook with lead pots.
>
> With the lower classes, the problem was monoculture. They got bread, but
> did not get a balanced diet. No trace minerals for maximal mental
> development.
>
> Gibbon noted that all the emperors who grew up in Rome, Caligula, Nero, &
> Commodus come to mind, were diasters, and all the competent administrators
> of the empire, Trajan, Diocletian, Hadrian, Justinian, grew up on farms
> out in the boonies. Where they all ate wild foods...
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Author: turtoni
Date: May 9, 2008 22:22

"turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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> "Day Brown" hughes.net> wrote in message
> news:a%%9Vj.17$yP7.5@newsfe18.lga...
>> Analysis of aristocratic skeletons shows lead. But most of it came from
>> the "garum", a fish sauce that sat on every table, its high acid leading
>> the metal from the lead bottle it was sold in. It was also upscale to
>> quit using pottery and cook with lead pots.
>>
>> With the lower classes, the problem was monoculture. They got bread, but
>> did not get a balanced diet. No trace minerals for maximal mental
>> development.
>>
>> Gibbon noted that all the emperors who grew up in Rome, Caligula, Nero, &
>> Commodus come to mind, were diasters, and all the competent
>> administrators of the empire, Trajan, Diocletian, Hadrian, Justinian,
>> grew up on farms out in the boonies. Where they all ate wild foods and
>> home grown veggies in what we'd call 'organic' soils and thereby received
>> the trace minerals and micro-nutrient in the plants that maximized mental ...
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Re: The Romans Did It First         


Author: Tron
Date: May 10, 2008 02:57

Hi,

"Day Brown" hughes.net> skrev i melding
news:a%%9Vj.17$yP7.5@newsfe18.lga...
> Analysis of aristocratic skeletons shows lead. But most of it came from
> the "garum", a fish sauce that sat on every table, its high acid leading
> the metal from the lead bottle it was sold in. It was also upscale to quit
> using pottery and cook with lead pots.
>
> With the lower classes, the problem was monoculture. They got bread, but
> did not get a balanced diet. No trace minerals for maximal mental
> development.

So the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was due simply to Vitamin C
definciency?
And here people have spculated for centuries on what went wrong.

Amazing.
>
> Gibbon noted that all the emperors who grew up in Rome, Caligula, Nero, &
> Commodus come to mind, were diasters, and all the competent administrators
> of the empire, Trajan, Diocletian, Hadrian...
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Re: The Romans Did It First         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: May 10, 2008 06:29

On Fri, 09 May 2008 13:51:32 -0700, Sir Frederick wrote:
> modern man too; even when the traps are as obvious as bailouts and
> Baghdad, they sashay right in.

This is a culturally and a political specific. Do not think this pertains
to all of "modern man". To cover up the fuck ups by saying "oh well it's
only human.. see the Romans did it" is an excuse for something that
should not be excused and a chance for the neo-emo fatalists to whine and
shine.

Rome did not fall. Rome's empire feel. Rome is not a ruin, it's ancient
buildings are. Many modern cultures have learned from ancient lessons
usually through their own histories. They no longer have the cultural will
to commit these same mistakes again. "Been there, done that" as it were.

This is not the fault of human nature, it is the fault of sheer cultural
ignorance, at best. Stupidity being the most obvious candidate however.

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