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Author: ShrikebackShrikeback Date: Aug 19, 2008 16:20
On Aug 19, 3:17 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is not a wager. It is a free market free trade offer.
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>>>>>> I'll pay $200 US for a hard copy answer to The Question from an
>>>>>> outspoken "market" economist at the Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
>>>>>> American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von
>>>>>> Mises.*
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>>>>>> The Question is:
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>>>>>> "Does free speech precede each and every free trade?"
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>>>>>> The rules are simple.
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>>>>>> 1. The letterhead must be from Hoover Inst., Heritage Foundation,
>>>>>> American Enterprise, Cato, the Chicago School of Economics, von Mises
>>>>>> Inst.*
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>>>>>> 2. The Question must appear in the body of the letter.
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Author: PeterBPPeterBP Date: Aug 20, 2008 17:06
DarkMatter yahoo.com> wrote:
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> There are a lot of pro-capitalist, fascist and anti-communist posters
> on usenet which makes me believe usnet serves as an haven for greedy
> pro-capitalist assholes and Nazis. That's one of the reasons i stopped
> posting on usenet a long time ago, especially on the politics
> section.
Oh my. A meta-troll?!
What is the world coming to...
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Author: Democracy HighlanderDemocracy Highlander Date: Aug 20, 2008 19:08
> Actually the fascists were rabidly anti-communist. Don't let the
> reality and details dissuade you though.
Of course, 2 idiots hating each other because each of them want the power to
enslave the people.
There is NO difference between the finality in communism and fascism. They
both lead to the same end: A plutocracy where a small oligarchy run as
tyrant over the enslaved people.
The difference between the communism and fascism it is only the path taken
to achieve the same finality. And the path taken is the one which select
how are the future plutocrats selected. So, if one fascist want to be the
leader of course he will hate his competition, the communist who dream of
the same job. "Free market" competition at work :-)
The opposite to plutocracy (communism, fascism/libertarianism) it is the
social-democracy.
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The world of the future will be fully democratic or will not be at all.
Democracy Highlander
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 20, 2008 20:42
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:08:18 -0400, Democracy Highlander
> yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> There is NO difference between the finality in communism and fascism. They
>> both lead to the same end: A plutocracy where a small oligarchy run as
>> tyrant over the enslaved people.
>
>
> Sort of like capitalism in that regard. Or libertarianism. welcome to
> human nature.
Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.
~unknown
It is always popular to blame a system rather than human nature. Such is
denial.
A reading of "Animal Farm" is in order.....
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Author: Democracy HighlanderDemocracy Highlander Date: Aug 21, 2008 15:00
DB wrote:
> Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.
> ~unknown
>
> It is always popular to blame a system rather than human nature. Such is
> denial.
Of course you have to blame the system.
It is the system what allows the bad side of the human nature to prosper.
And when this happen, the system need to be reformed to reduce the damages
and amplify the good parts.
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The world of the future will be fully democratic or will not be at all.
Democracy Highlander
P.S.:
When I say "democratic", I use the word democratic coming from democracy not
from Democratic party. I am not connected in any way with Democratic party
and if they fail to do as promised and cut corporate corruption I have no
problem to turn on them and blog against them too.
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Author: QuantumDotQuantumDot Date: Aug 21, 2008 15:04
On 2008-08-18 21:42:22 +0200, Video61@ tcq.net said:
> you have posted this many times before over the years, and still no
> takers. they cannot answer it with a straight yes or no.
What is higher: 440 Hz or the Eiffel Tower?
What, no takers? Fucking loser.
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Author: Democracy HighlanderDemocracy Highlander Date: Aug 21, 2008 15:11
QuantumDot wrote:
> What is higher: 440 Hz or the Eiffel Tower?
Obviously Eiffel Tower is higher :-)
Eiffel Tower it is higher than the median man made building, while a 440 Hz
sound it is lower than the median man made sound. So easy riddle :-)
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The world of the future will be fully democratic or will not be at all.
Democracy Highlander
P.S.:
When I say "democratic", I use the word democratic coming from democracy not
from Democratic party. I am not connected in any way with Democratic party
and if they fail to do as promised and cut corporate corruption I have no
problem to turn on them and blog against them too.
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 21, 2008 16:36
Democracy Highlander wrote:
> DB wrote:
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>> Capitalism is: Man exploiting man. Socialism is the other way around.
>> ~unknown
>>
>> It is always popular to blame a system rather than human nature. Such is
>> denial.
>
> Of course you have to blame the system.
> It is the system what allows the bad side of the human nature to prosper.
> And when this happen, the system need to be reformed to reduce the damages
> and amplify the good parts.
>
>
Humans developing systems that enforce morality on humans. Sounds like a
viscous circle to me.
Do you have historical precedence?
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Author: Democracy HighlanderDemocracy Highlander Date: Aug 21, 2008 16:51
DB wrote:
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> Humans developing systems that enforce morality on humans. Sounds like a
> viscous circle to me.
Correct. This is the reason why it is idiotic to oppose the change and
defend a status-quo. ANY status-quo. This is the reason why conservatism it
is such a humongous mistake.
Chances are that every implemented system will have some flaws, due to human
nature. Some of the flaws can be tolerated some not. As a mentally sane
society it make all the sense in the world to tinker with the system to
make it better based on the present situation and the best estimate of the
future. First, to eliminate the biggest problems.
However, due to the huge complexity of the system it is unlikely to ever
exist a silver-bullet solution which solve all the issues and do not
introduce others.
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Author: DBDB Date: Aug 21, 2008 17:18
Democracy Highlander wrote:
> DB wrote:
>
>> Humans developing systems that enforce morality on humans. Sounds like a
>> viscous circle to me.
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> Correct. This is the reason why it is idiotic to oppose the change and
> defend a status-quo. ANY status-quo. This is the reason why conservatism it
> is such a humongous mistake.
I'm not defending the status-quo. But I'm not going to pretend that the
'other party' isn't more of the same.
> Chances are that every implemented system will have some flaws, due to human
> nature. Some of the flaws can be tolerated some not. As a mentally sane
> society it make all the sense in the world to tinker with the system to
> make it better based on the present situation and the best estimate of the
> future. First, to eliminate the biggest problems.
Gee, the only ones tinkering are insiders. We have no say. Have you ever
voted on a national law? You do understand that there are no democracies
in the world?
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