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Author: chazwinchazwin Date: Dec 28, 2006 06:21
Sphere wrote:
> As our understanting of natural events grows
> our definition of what a god is keeps changing
> so as to keep the idea of god out of reach.
> ---
This is called the "god of the gaps". Godists change the definition of
the character of god so as to preserve the idea of god whilst trying to
accomodate scientific discovery.
Personally I think the current notion of god is so diminished as to
make it null and void.
> No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
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Author: RobibnikoffRobibnikoff Date: Dec 28, 2006 13:51
"Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in message
news:v7GdnYwG4fKgpAnYnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews.com...> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:09:38 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
>
>> "Mark K. Bilbo" wrote in message
>> news:N9CdnUgi3K5QlQnYnZ2dnUVZ_s_inZ2d@giganews.com...>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:06:23 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>> Al Klein wrote:
>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2006 07:29:25 -0800, collection60@ googlemail.com wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>That's the thing, it's not a substance. It comes from choice. Can
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>measure choice? You can measure energy just as much as you can
>>>>>>>measure
>>>>>>>choice. It's possible but... don't expect to get measurements as
>>>>>>>precise as you get in other areas of physics. ...
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Author: SphereSphere Date: Dec 25, 2006 17:20
As our understanting of natural events grows
our definition of what a god is keeps changing
so as to keep the idea of god out of reach.
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No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
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Author: Steve OSteve O Date: Dec 25, 2006 17:32
> As our understanting of natural events grows
> our definition of what a god is keeps changing
> so as to keep the idea of god out of reach.
Sure it does.
In Genesis, God used to walk around the Garden of Eden (with other Gods,
apparantly) and was quite accesible.
Later on, as that idea became ridiculous, the "gods" were pushed up into the
mountains, where no- one could reach.
After humans were able to explore the highest mountains, God was moved to
the sky.
After exploration of the sky was completed, God moved somewhere else.
Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible place.
Maybe one day, we could push him out of there, too.
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Author: Uncle VicUncle Vic Date: Dec 25, 2006 18:20
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Steve O (spamhere@ nowhere.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:
> Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
> He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible place.
He lives in the same place he's always lived. In the minds of those who
created him.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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Author: Steve OSteve O Date: Dec 25, 2006 18:26
"Uncle Vic" withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98A4BA99C2EFAvicman@66.250.146.128...> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Steve O
> (spamhere@ nowhere.com)
> made the light shine upon us with this:
> >> Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
>> He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible place.
>
> He lives in the same place he's always lived. In the minds of those who
> created him.
From what I've seen Vic, that's a fairly undefinable and inaccessible place
too!
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
"Faith doen't move mountains - it levels buldings."
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Author: SphereSphere Date: Dec 25, 2006 18:28
Steve O wrote:
>> As our understanting of natural events grows
>> our definition of what a god is keeps changing
>> so as to keep the idea of god out of reach.
>
> Sure it does.
> In Genesis, God used to walk around the Garden of Eden (with other Gods,
> apparantly) and was quite accesible.
> Later on, as that idea became ridiculous, the "gods" were pushed up into the
> mountains, where no- one could reach.
> After humans were able to explore the highest mountains, God was moved to
> the sky.
> After exploration of the sky was completed, God moved somewhere else.
> Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
> He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible...
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Author: SphereSphere Date: Dec 25, 2006 18:33
Uncle Vic wrote:
> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Steve O (spamhere@ nowhere.com)
> made the light shine upon us with this:
> >> Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
>> He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible place.
>
> He lives in the same place he's always lived. In the minds of those who
> created him.
Please point out exactly how these-minds is
to be differentiated from not-these-minds.
Up to a point I'd agree with your characterization,
but you seem to be implying an alternative which
I also do not accept.
Basically, I don't see where living in their minds
makes Him any less (or more) real. I don't see
where there is anything special about thought.
---
No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
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Author: SphereSphere Date: Dec 25, 2006 18:35
Steve O wrote:
> "Uncle Vic" withheld.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98A4BA99C2EFAvicman@66.250.146.128...>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Steve O
>> (spamhere@ nowhere.com)
>> made the light shine upon us with this:
>> >>> Science has been pushing God off the planet for years.
>>> He now lives in yet another undefinable and inaccessible place.
>>
>> He lives in the same place he's always lived. In the minds of those who
>> created him.
>
> From what I've seen Vic, that's a fairly undefinable and inaccessible place
> too!
Heheh.
You want to percieve the process or feel it?
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No essence. No permanence. No perfection.
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