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The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 13, 2007 19:07

CBS TV news tonight reports it's now one and a half trillion dollars,
and the meter is (seemingly) infinitely running.

Each American is indebted theoretically for $46,000 (that's an
unbelievable figure)

CBS is also exposing a cover-up of Iraq veterans' suidcides.

Freedom of information was (surprise, surprise) delayed and then
typically weaseled by the Pentagon and subsequently by the Veterans
Administration mental health bureaucracies.

(The V.A. is not one of my favorites after the way they diddled my WW
II veteran-suffering father-in-law.)

So the cbs reporter researched it state by state, and it amounts to a
disproportionate figure in the thousands, which i cannot recall
specifically.

The expose of the scandalous reality continues in tomorrow's news
cast.

What has this got to do with philosophy?

Go to helle.
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The Price of Black Blood         


Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Nov 13, 2007 19:24

> What has this got to do with philosophy?

Black blood, Robert, black blood.

We are no longer true humans, merely oil derivatives.

Take the 2,4,4 trimethel pentane [100%% "octane"] out of our fuel lines
[veins] and we die.

Orthodox Jews never had a more powerful argument for shunning
technology at least one day a week.

Bret Cahill
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Re: The Price of Black Blood         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 14, 2007 17:19

On Nov 13, 10:24 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
>> What has this got to do with philosophy?
>
> Black blood, Robert, black blood.
>
> We are no longer true humans, merely oil derivatives.
>
> Take the 2,4,4 trimethel pentane [100%% "octane"] out of our fuel lines
> [veins] and we die.
>
> Orthodox Jews never had a more powerful argument for shunning
> technology at least one day a week.
>
> Bret Cahill
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: MichaelNJ
Date: Nov 15, 2007 08:25

On Nov 13, 10:07 pm, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> CBS TV news tonight reports it's now one and a half trillion dollars,
> and the meter is (seemingly) infinitely running.
>
> Each American is indebted theoretically for $46,000 (that's an
> unbelievable figure)
>
> CBS is also exposing a cover-up of Iraq veterans' suidcides.
>
> Freedom of information was (surprise, surprise) delayed and then
> typically weaseled by the Pentagon and subsequently by the Veterans
> Administration mental health bureaucracies.
>
> (The V.A. is not one of my favorites after the way they diddled my WW
> II veteran-suffering father-in-law.)
>
> So the cbs reporter researched it state by state, and it amounts to a
> disproportionate figure in the thousands, which i cannot recall
> specifically.
> ...
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Nov 15, 2007 09:01

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:07:28 -0800, Robert Cohen wrote:
> CBS TV news tonight reports it's now ...

ready to turn on the 'war'. CBS/ABC/NBC did this also with Vietnam.
They were gung ho at first. Then after a lot of death and a lot of money
they became oh so very edgy and started to 'question things' long after
the deed was done.
> What has this got to do with philosophy?

A consideration of hypocrisy comes to mind.
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 15, 2007 15:29

On Nov 15, 12:01 pm, ZerkonX zerkonx.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:07:28 -0800, Robert Cohen wrote:
>> CBS TV news tonight reports it's now ...
>
> ready to turn on the 'war'. CBS/ABC/NBC did this also with Vietnam.
> They were gung ho at first. Then after a lot of death and a lot of money
> they became oh so very edgy and started to 'question things' long after
> the deed was done.
>
>> What has this got to do with philosophy?
>
> A consideration of hypocrisy comes to mind.

Close enough, but no analogy can be exact of course.

Nam had hundreds of U.S. soldiers as casualties per day/week,
totalling approx 50,000 deaths, and several hundreds of thousands
injuries. The numbers speak for themselves, and thus the
demonstrations were common, especially after Tet 1968.

Iraq has a total of now of 3-4 thousand U.S. deaths, as noted daily/
weekly from network tv (the PBS NEWS HOUR & ABC on Sundays)
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: gdewilde
Date: Nov 15, 2007 16:14

On Nov 16, 12:29 am, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> On Nov 15, 12:01 pm, ZerkonX zerkonx.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:07:28 -0800, Robert Cohen wrote:
>>> CBS TV news tonight reports it's now ...
>
>> ready to turn on the 'war'. CBS/ABC/NBC did this also with Vietnam.
>> They were gung ho at first. Then after a lot of death and a lot of money
>> they became oh so very edgy and started to 'question things' long after
>> the deed was done.
>
>>> What has this got to do with philosophy?
>
>> A consideration of hypocrisy comes to mind.
>
> Close enough, but no analogy can be exact of course.
>
> Nam had hundreds of U.S. soldiers as casualties per day/week,
> totalling approx 50,000 deaths, and several hundreds of thousands
> injuries. The numbers speak for themselves, and thus the ...
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Nov 15, 2007 18:00

On Nov 15, 7:14 pm, "gdewi...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 12:29 am, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Nov 15, 12:01 pm, ZerkonX zerkonx.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:07:28 -0800, Robert Cohen wrote:
>>>> CBS TV news tonight reports it's now ...
>
>>> ready to turn on the 'war'. CBS/ABC/NBC did this also with Vietnam.
>>> They were gung ho at first. Then after a lot of death and a lot of money
>>> they became oh so very edgy and started to 'question things' long after
>>> the deed was done.
>
>>>> What has this got to do with philosophy?
>
>>> A consideration of hypocrisy comes to mind. ...
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Nov 15, 2007 19:40

> "Blaming the media" as you seem to be doing is a cliche actually
> overly-used by both pro and anti war re Vietnam.

Depends on what you are blaming the media for.

I blame them for using _anything_ to get the public discusion off
economic issues.

In that respect being for and against the quagime both serve the rich.

Bret Cahill

"America needs a war."

-- William Randolph Hearst.
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Re: The Price of the Iraq Conundrum         


Author: gdewilde
Date: Nov 15, 2007 20:17

On Nov 16, 3:00 am, Robert Cohen msn.com> wrote:
> You are critical of America, and that's your right.

Not at all,

It's hard to get the description right. For what I mean.

I'm critical of cheering war criminals as heroes.

Let me put it this way: We exported 500 000 000 slaves. By no means
in the world can anyone even begin to argue slavery was Heroic!??

Well can you? Exactly, I didn't think so.

Now you should view the video and you tell me if the assassination of
people living in bamboo huts makes you a hero? Lets have an example
ok?

Lets say you live in a bamboo hut,

Now I come with my platoon from the other side of the globe and.....

I shoot your 3 babies, then I kill your wife,I kill your mum, I kill
your brothers, I kill your sisters, I kill your neighbors, and finally
I also shoot you.

I ask you: am I now a hero?

The American news media have you convinced that 50K military, killing
3 500K unarmed civilians is in fact a honorable deed.
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