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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jul 18, 2008 06:40
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Jul 18, 2008 08:19
On Jul 18, 9:40 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> Bret Cahill
Memo to GM
Wake up and pee, the world is on fire
GM should surprise everybody by importing gas misers from its Asian
factories, or at least import the engineering and technology to make
'em domestically, since appsarently domestic boobs don't hardly know
how
GM should offer grants & cash prizes including the naming rights to a
"Smith Miser" vehicle that is so f'ing cutesy that it makes everybody
wanting copies in rainbow colors
GM is now supposedly unproudly worth less than the Hershey candy bar
company
They say their hyped CHEVY VOLT electric car won't be available for a
year(? or more)
Meanwhile, they'll sell ya all the terrific obsolete guzzlers ya
want, maybe you'll get a tax writeoff or something sem-brilliant
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Author: Paul CiszekPaul Ciszek Date: Jul 18, 2008 16:38
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>They say their hyped CHEVY VOLT electric car won't be available for a
>year(? or more)
Unless they are willing to SELL the vehicles this time, I doubt anyone
will touch them. Fool me twice, shame on me and all that.
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Please reply to: | President Bush is promoting Peace and Democracy
pciszek at panix dot com | in the Middle East by selling Weapons to the
Autoreply is disabled | King of Saudi Arabia.
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Author: Bob EldBob Eld Date: Jul 18, 2008 20:00
> Bret Cahill
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Hopefully the price will continue to go down giving us a bit of a breather
on gas, airlines and so on. But, the writing is on the wall and we MUST
continue our quest for domestic alternatives. It would be pure folly to get
complacent and drop the alternative effort like we did in 1980 when we and
others just drilled our way out of it. That worked for a few years, it won't
this time, we have been warned.
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Author: V for VendicarV for Vendicar Date: Jul 18, 2008 23:48
"Robert Cohen" msn.com> wrote
> GM is now supposedly unproudly worth less than the Hershey candy bar
> company
Well that's what you get when you make crap cars, refuse to invest in the
future, and have a work force
that can't read and needs to consult comic books in order to figure out how
to do their jobs.
I was talking to a former GM employee the other day, and he won't purchase
anything but a foreign built car. In fact he went so far as to say that he
wouldn't even consider purchasing a car built in AmeriKKKa, even if it was a
Toyota.
In his words, quality of production dropped dramatically when Japanese
cars began to be made in the U.S.
AmeriKKKan workers he said just don't have the smarts or the ethics to
produce a quality product.
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Author: Rob DekkerRob Dekker Date: Jul 19, 2008 00:00
After decades of consistently making the wrong choices, it finally happened
: GM is toast.
Market cap is now 8.5 Billion, a virtual bankrupcy for the 'largest'
automaker in the world.
Anyone investor company could buy them in a heartbeat.
I feel bad for all these thousands of employees, than got lured into a false
sense of security of big profits when GM decided to put their beautifully
designed best EV ever through the shredder, and introduce the Hummer H2
instead.
I also feel bad for the Opel division, always making great automobiles for
the European market. Much more fuel efficient than anything they allowed to
be sold in the US.
I feel especially bad for the people of the US that bought these GM
vehicles. Thinking they did their country a favor, and instead they bought a
polluting gas guzzler that got the US into severe oil dependency, costs an
arm and a leg to keep it running, messes up the atmosphere of planet Earth,
changing world wide climates, causes a $700 billion money drain to
oil-producing countries that hate the guts of us, and with that has us
perfectly positioned to a faltering economy.
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Author: DBDB Date: Jul 19, 2008 00:36
Rob Dekker wrote:
> After decades of consistently making the wrong choices....
Whistling through the graveyard.....
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Jul 19, 2008 08:14
re: GM imports to U.S.
I recently read somewhere that supposedly the company known as
GM now intends (soon, this year or next) to bring in "ten" different
models of economy cars from non domestic plants.
They apparently so fear bankruptcy doom that they are belatedly
serious as an expressway vehicle traffic jam wreck at 5 o'clock on a
Friday evening.
Their domestic bad judgments & crazy arrogance have been astounding
since ....the 1970s or 1960s.
They've admittedly tried some reform efforts a la Saturn that itself
has now failed--what hjappened to Saturn?
Their foreign Opel et cetera production and sales are said to be okay,
and even supposedly what keeps 'em currently afloat.
Belatedly, the American United Auto Workers union realizes the
impending doom.
Please let me be clear, not hyperbolic or exaggerated.
Most Americans (including me) would have preferred owning
predominantly American built quality vehicles.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jul 19, 2008 08:56
> They apparently so fear bankruptcy doom �that they are belatedly
> serious as an expressway �vehicle traffic jam wreck at 5 o'clock on a
> Friday evening.
> Their domestic bad judgments & crazy arrogance have been astounding
> since ....the 1970s or 1960s.
Management books will often devote a chapter or two to GM.
. . .
> Belatedly, the American United Auto Workers union realizes the
> impending doom.
They can do what the "black tags" did back in the 70s:
Move to Texas and get a job in the earl industry.
The only difference is that instead of making 1/3rd their former pay
they'll be making 1/8th the pay.
. . .
> It seeems that GM somehow actually had believed its advertising,
That's one reason to question the claims of their cellulostic ethanol
startups.
Before only the management was sleazy. Now even their tech related
press releases may be disreputable.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Jul 19, 2008 09:22
> After decades of consistently making the wrong choices, it finally happened
> : GM is toast.
> Market cap is now 8.5 Billion, a virtual bankrupcy for the 'largest'
> automaker in the world.
> Anyone investor company could buy them in a heartbeat.
The pitch could appeal to status or historical values.
> I feel bad for all these thousands of employees, than got lured into a false
> sense of security of big profits when GM decided to put their beautifully
> designed best EV ever through the shredder, and introduce the Hummer H2
> instead.
They can either freeze in the winter up north in the winter or move
south.
It's cheaper to cool a house 15 degrees in the summer with electricity
than to heat it 40 degrees in the winter with oil.
> I also feel bad for the Opel division, always making great automobiles for
> the European market. Much more fuel efficient than anything they allowed to
> be sold in the US.
Safety becomes less important as the product becomes unaffordable.
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